Need help against UKF (2 vs 2 )

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OST / OKW vs Double UKF.

We were pushing them hard early on. They lost 2 Sections, one AEC and one UC. The problem was that they manged to take control of both ammo points ( Moscow ) . From that point on it went downhill. Our infantry could not do much against them, as they were equipped with MGs and were upgraded to 5 men squads. Furthermore they built forward bases on the ammmo points which made it basically impossible to do anything with our infantry against them. Fighting them with Vehicles was also no option as they had AT guns and one guy had double Pioneers with Piats. So I tried to build a stuka to kill their infantry / destroy their forward bases, but they doged stuka and simply repaired the forward bases quickly with their sections. Then they harassed our cutoff and took the fuel. From that on it was a lost fight.

So ... yea. I guess my question is. What to do as OKW ( and maybe OST ) against 5 men sections with MGs, which camp your cutoff because they have a forward base. I guess the answer would be ISG, but that thing is locked behind T1 and I already went Mech HQ. at that point ... so yea.

Overall this post is probably just a rant. I simply can not understand how a team can win after losing 2 sections, one UC and one AEC in exchange for literally nothing within the first few minutes.

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

Playing with randoms

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

18 Aug 2020, 04:14 AMCODGUY

The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

18 Aug 2020, 04:11 AMCODGUY

I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.

18 Aug 2020, 04:14 AMCODGUY

The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

29 Jun 2020, 19:21 PMIncendiaryRounds

u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.

12 Aug 2020, 10:02 AMProtos Angelus

Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

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Basically JLI is one solid answer against brits, try and not bleed to much and get 2-3 of them. JLI and Obers are basically the only infantry that csn fight tommies effectively as okw.

Another strat is to go for 221 in order to deal good mp damage early and then lockdown on fuel to gain an armor advantage.

And btw, ban Moskau it is a terrible map that promotes blobbing on cutoff even more than winnekedonk

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28 Aug 2020, 15:17 PMFire and Terror

And btw, ban Moskau it is a terrible map that promotes blobbing on cutoff even more than winnekedonk

Definitely will do from now on.

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

Playing with randoms

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

18 Aug 2020, 04:14 AMCODGUY

The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

18 Aug 2020, 04:11 AMCODGUY

I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.

18 Aug 2020, 04:14 AMCODGUY

The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not

2 Jun 2018, 04:21 AMRocket

Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.

29 Jun 2020, 19:21 PMIncendiaryRounds

u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.

12 Aug 2020, 10:02 AMProtos Angelus

Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.

12 Aug 2020, 12:59 PMKatitof

I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you

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What about p fussies flare and jagdtiger while you keep stuka alive and the ostheer goes p werfer ? maybe patience?

a good question i have is wich maps to downvote in 2v2 as axis?

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Falls do a good job against brits since they can kind of just facewipe vickers and it's not like you have any really oppressive anti infantry light vehicles to worry about against brits (so not having as many fausts is acceptable).

Also indirect is uncounterable as brits so you can abuse that too.

Playercard of LoopDloop

1v1: P	2v2: P	3v3: P	4v4: P
1v1: 105	2v2: P	3v3: P	4v4: P
1v1: 132	2v2: P	3v3: P	4v4: P
1v1: 53	2v2: P	3v3: P	4v4: P

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Ost really should have sniper and play with OKW supporting it and covering it. British has no answers for snipers early on and you will bleed him badly if he choses to rush 5 men sections instead of sniper.

As double OKW you really should just go for Fallshims\JLI or Fusiliers. Because volks cant handle UKF with volks, obersts arive way too late and LVs will be answered with AEC or AT guns.

With punzerfusiliers you will still bleed early on, but at least their gewehr upgrade makes them quite strong.