Dude ostheer can do the same with StuG into tiger and pac wall.
Yes and I am opposed to that as well
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Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 15:11 PM
Dude ostheer can do the same with StuG into tiger and pac wall Yes and I am opposed to that as well In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Balance Preview Patchnotes20 Nov 2015, 13:10 PM
Concerned a bit about UKF in 1v1 but on the whole seem good changes. I approve. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 13:07 PM
has OP encountered cpt.molo? No I haven't. I gather, he pioneered and perfected this kind of play? In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 13:06 PM
Btw can a mod change the title to add in mech assault in the title. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 13:05 PM
Well ofcourse I can't win outnumbered. I hope you read everything else which I also typed: Namely: that I could not afford to keep spending on T1 units because I had to tech. Its ostheer's main flaw imo, you simply need that 222/Pak asap otherwise you leave yourself open. Because I didn't know when the M5 etc would come out and couldn't let my guard down. Yes there were some simple strategies which I could have used e.g. mg bunker; but my second mistake was in not anticipating his playstyle. This is the second time I played against pure script spam in 1v1 (which I'm relatively new to) so it was unexpected and I did not adapt in time. My point is that without LL, or say, mechanized assault, (if I was allied, he axis) that he couldn't have kept it up. The doctrines enable this. And there is the other fact that t85s, easy8s etc were all restricted to tech. For the same reasons as outlined above (allowed tech skipping). Why the exception for LL and mech assault In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 12:39 PM
I thank you for your advice and I will try to play better from now on. I always am trying. And yes, I do realize now, in hindsight, that an mg bunker would have stopped him cold. And yes, another of my mistakes was that I did not see his strat for what it was early enough. I didn't realize that he was only spamming scripts and had not/was not going to tech at all. And that early sniper was a mistake. However, I think you missed one of my crucial points. He did not defeat me due to sherman spam. Not at all. I never complained about fuel mismatches. Yes he had me beat by the midgame by a 450 vp advantage. My point was that he could do it because he could safely spend (almost) all of his his mp toward combat infantry up to that point. As he had no teching to do. I, otoh, could not. Its the same advantage that mechanized assault gives, and in my opinion its an imbalance. Both this doc, and mech assault. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 12:31 PM
lend lease shermans already get their cost penalised for their call-in status. Currently, they take 135 fuel to call-in at 10 cps, but take only 2 volleys from double pak guns to kill. It wasnt the sherman spam which got me. Tbh he did not spam shermans. It was the con spam. Which I couldn't counter by building more infantry because I knew I had to tech and that he did not In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks20 Nov 2015, 12:29 PM
spamming scripts. Which gave him the early game advantage. Through attrition In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks14 Nov 2015, 14:58 PM
because both factions are expected to spend over the course of a game. if he doesnt hes saved some mp (he gains some). at the same time since i have to spend I lose that amount. the net difference is the sum of the two. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: [Sov][1v1] Lend Lease: Exploitation of tech free tanks14 Nov 2015, 06:52 AM
I think it's fine. (emphasis mine) Lets see. He saves 160 + 240 + 240 = 765 mp (cost of tech buildings). I have to spend, for teching, (T2 + BP2 + T3) = 575 mp. [Not counting T1 & BP1 as ill need them against his conspam anyway.] End result: he gets, essentially, a 575+765 = 1340 mp resource advantage in terms of manpower. Spread it out over a 20 minute game, it becomes 67mp per minute. Which, I believe, is similar to the Soviet Industry penalty, only this is a bonus. I mention soviet industry here because we all know how crippling that mp penalty is, now just imagine a 70mp bonus to your income instead. (In my case it was ~50 cause the match was 27 minutes but still!) If you can call that 'a bit' and a minimal advantage, well that's your standard of 'a bit' & minimal advantages sir. Not mine. Nor the majority of the community I'd wager. The whole bloody point is that he used his superior numbers to attrit me into not having enough fuel for a StuG by continually pushing me off my territory. He was able to do so by being able to pump in fresh conscript squads even after his initial ones (and mine) had taken damage. Because of his advantage in manpower And that he could do so risk free because of the M4C tanks not being tied to tech. If I knew that he won't get those M4Cs before teching, then I could have pumped out extra infantry to counter the spam. However, since I knew he'd get those M4Cs out tech-free eventually, I had to spend extra mp on teching up to T2 and then T3 just 'in case'. (Proof by contradiction). In: COH2 Balance |
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