The Churchill has the same Damage as PzIV and even higher penetration is most ranges.
The Churchill will "straggle to penetrate aka damage" against high armor unit like the KT the same way a PzIV will "straggle to penetrate aka damage" against high armor units like the IS-2.
Except IS-2 will not be bouncing off of P4 50% of the time.
Do you start to see the point or more illumination is needed?
It will not however straggle vs the OKW PzIV as the it was originally claimed, it will win in most cases.
The claim is simply false and misleading and will remain so no matter how much "smoke and mirrors" are used.
No one ever said it'll lose.
It will struggle(the word is
struggle btw) against OKW P4 not like you struggle to grasp that simple argument, where it has completely no chance.
Struggle means its hard for it to beat it, not impossible.
In the context it means long and the context is very clear to everyone who have read quoted post, response and whole sentence, not fixate himself on a singular word one doesn't seem to understand anyway.
If it was impossible, I would say impossible.
Struggle is synnonymous to hard and opposite to easy.
I suggest to simply move on and stop trying to prove a false claim as correct.
The very moment you'll stop pretending there is something which isn't and falsely responding to it.
I hope with all my heart that with guidelines above on the meaning of a word you completely missed now you actually might get the idea.
You focus on trees so much that you can't see a forest in front of you.
Remeber:
Katitof NEVER Played Brits! He cant even imagine how good/ bad brits units are.
So stop discuss with him about brits units and play.
To topic: Church is the most efficent tank in game when look on its pricetag and stats. Combine it with a TD...and you will struggle hard vs this.
So we can now, by your very own logic, disregard every single thing you say that isn't directly about ost?
That'll save us so much time.