Profile of Katitof

incorrect how long have you been playing this game that you state penals are the main line? its only once they received there AT sachels they became popular. but im not here to give a history lesson.

they became mainline thanks to 2 stepps being taken, they got buffed, so they were actual DPS squad that could fight at long range and scaled well despite lack of weapon upgrade and pretty much soft removal of
any kind of maxim play, therefore T2 viability from the game.

Penals are mainline for quite some time now and were already even pre AT satchel and PTRS inclusion, the latter was a step that finally unbound soviets from mandatory guards doctrine play.

If you claim someone doesn't know coh history, make sure you actually know your shit yourself.

You're right in saying that conscripts are weak but said weakness gets compensated by the insanely op T-70 and the extremely strong t34-85. Also conscript utility is far from a meme. Merge+flamethrower early on is insanely strong. Oorah gives you a positional advantage (that most people here wouldn't notice because they lack basic understanding of coh2 tactics) etc. etc.

Oh, alright.

Can we nerf HMG42 or grens into the ground to the point where you're shooting yourself in the foot by getting it, because flame 251 has excellent, really bordering on op performance and StuGs are one of the most cost efficient units in game? You'll be forced to rush PGs or pidgeonholed into specific elite infantry doctrines almost every singular game just to stand a chance, but that's perfectly fine and I see no issue with it what so ever, because flame 251 and stugs.

Sorry, doesn't work that way.

While its always important to keep in mind what's behind the unit, if the unit itself is so bad that literally no one ever uses it, its in need of change, regardless what's behind it.

Merge+flamer is situational and you're better 9 out of 10 times just using flamer in M3.

Oorah is also situational since it had a spike up in the cost, while cons do not have weapon upgrade, soviets overall aren't exactly muni floating faction they were with almost everything costing muni now and more then before, plus in case of oorah you need to calculate yourself if its worth losing the potential DPS just to get behind the cover, plus its not like axis infantry doesn't have access to a sprint one way or another anyway.

soviets have the luxury to have a choice between cannon fodder (conscripts) and reliable, competitive with other similar units from other factions(penals).

Meanwhile, both axis factions have the luxury of having competitive infantry for the exact same price as that "cannon fodder" or just slightly more expensive.

I'd rather have a cannon fodder that scales the one that is a meme.

Sorry, 240 mp is NOT "cannon fodder", even 200mp osttruppen are no longer expendable(they were when they had cost of 120mp) and infantry that is incapable of cost effective fighting will never be desirable, "dey got utility" is a meme, not argument, grens have a lot of utility themselves, yet they do get fuel free LMG upgrade.

Reduce cons cost. Next patch cons get nerfed bcos they become too cost effective. Then cons get cost reduction again. Repeat loop until cost reaches 0 or cons get removed from the actual game.

Oh yeah, because it worked exactly this way for obers, sturmpios, PGs and so on.

Team weapon drops still have pretty great use in team games, giving ATG to T1 soviet does make a difference.
Its rest of the doctrine that doesn't really do much.