Ost mortair firing 2 times while sov fire once (soon). MP cost equal. So fairly.
Sov mortar does have 2 more entities, is 20% more accurate, and fight ( against wher ) 4 entities squad, why do you ignore those elements and just concentrate on fire rate ? Play mirror matches Wher vs Wher it its your definition of "balance"
You forget that to actually fire a weapon, the crew will need to go through the following delays, so the difference is not so high : aim time + wind up + wind down + cooldown + reload
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Ost mortair firing 3 times while sov fire once. So fairly.
Ost mortar reload will be 4 sec soon |
Just as i told people dont know the stats and blame the game, in this case the commpz4 for losing.
Also aura doesn't boost hp by 20%.
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Receiving 20% less damage will result exactly the same as having +20% health, in bonus, your tank dont take 20% extra time to repair |
T34 isn't only cheap as fuck, it's also shitty as fuck. Even 2 T34 (160 fuel) won't take even half of Panther's HP. I just pointed that Panther can fight against everything and Soviets don't have any counterpart.
So you think it's normal for Axis to have non-doctrinal unit with speed of light vehicle, armor of heavy vehicle, at-gun of TD and MG which is ok against infantry? Smoke makes this fucker invincible.
2 T34 can kill a panther, flank it, attack his rear armor and you will win
Or like anyone else, pick doctrines, T34-85 with mark target will eat panther for breakfast |
Allies are USF, Brits and Soviets. Only Brits have non-doctrinal heavy tank. Axis are Wehr and OKW, both have heavy non-doctrinal tank so I definitely can say that EVERY Axis faction has non-doctrinal heavy tank but not EVERY Allied faction. Where is fuck logic?
IS-2 is supposed to be good against heavies including Panther but fucking Blitz with smoke screen help Panther to escape without any punishment. It's really hard to kill Panther with IS-2 in 1on1 fight. As I said it either kills you or just escapes.
Maybe I'm not good with clown car, ok but I can't manage to survive when I'm moving backwards with M3.
Panther cant win a 1v1 duel against an IS2 ( but can leave the fight ), a snared tank is a dead tank, try to At nade him, or use mines ( you will float munitions with soviets )
And panther is not a "real" heavy, lets say is more like a "good armored" medium tank hunter, Panther was classified as heavy for allies, but medium for axis
With M3 you have 2 options:
- Engage at distance, M3 going back kite gren easily
- Engage Solo gren ( or even better, Assgren, Pio's, MG, Mortar, Sniper, non upgraded pgrens) with M3 flamer, cause 2 faust will "one shot you", when a Solo gren will just die against M3 Flamer, 1 faust will not be enough to kill M3
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Shrek / Zook projectiles should go only in one direction straight, and not follow your vehicule like a javelin missile  |
Last time ive checked the Command Panzer4 had around 50 penetration and 80 damage. So far the only change i remember is its territory HP buff got changed to an Aura version. I dont remember any damage or penetration buff. Have i missed something? I doubt it could go toe-to-toe against any medium tank...
Also, as far as i know, the command tanks buff aura never effects the tanks itself.
As far as i know, the command tank does have the 20% hp bonus for him, but the buff is not showing on himself |
Ok, Churchill is a good example but you see - every German faction has non-doctrinal heavy tank but not Allies. And yeah, I can't beat fucking Panther with my IS-2 - it usually either kills me or just escapes with blitz and smoke.
Man, I compared AI abilities of T34-76 which is supposed to be good against infantry and Panther which is supposed to be good against armor only. But this 'animal' is good literally against anything and doesn't suffer from low speed like Tiger and IS-2.
I can't escape from grens with my m3 backspeed - it's too slow. Maybe it's my bad luck again and I'm wrong, ok. What about acceleration time? Is it takes longer to reach maximum speed when you're moving backwards?
- "But not allies" and you say Churchill to contradict yourself in the same sentence, cause fuck logic
- If you cant beat Panther with IS2, its not the game fault
- Again, Panther is shit against infantry
- Why you rushed a M3 into multiple faust range ? a M3 flamer will always beat a solo gren, always
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Dude, Panther kills infantry better than T34-76 thanks to MG upgrade which doesn't miss as T34 gun. Remember times when M3 was a real threat for all infantry because its speed was equal back speed? It nerfed today and you won't escape from grenadier's faust when moving backwards. I think Panther needs the same.
And about tech price - Soviets cannot build IS-1 in Soviet T4! I'm ready to pay 600 mp and 180 fuel for it but for some reason only Germans can have non-doctrinal heavy tanks like Panther and KT.
- Comparing panther pintle MG with T34 gun that can kill multiple entities ?
- I remember times where M3 was toxic cause snipers could go inside ... and M3 flamers is just stupid ( i am not a fan of cpt Molo gameplay )
- You can have Soviet T4 way before Wher can have T4, you can have multiples T34-76, even T34-85 before a single panther hit the field
- Post a replay where a panther ruined your life, maybe we can help you to find out that the panther is not 100% in cause here |
Guys, don't you think that after all these nerfs Soviet mortars've become pure SHIT?
I can't see a reason to build it. Is Relic insane? They nerfed PM41 to shit. It cannot win against ANY Axis counterpart (leIG18, GrW34, mortar halftruck), has very slow rate of fire and bad accuracy. Relic do loves to give shitty vet1 abilities to Soviet units (flares, flares everywhere and some 'capture the territory') so they remove "Precision Strike" too. I think, PM41 MUST be buffed. And please don't tell me about German GrW34 nerf (ROF from 2.6 sec to 4 sec), it's still superior, stays in T1 and COSTS THE SAME as poor Soviet counterpart.
Now about Panther. Honestly, I can't find a reason to call-in a Tiger when I have this non-doctrinal killing machine. Please explain why this bitch literally annihilate everything - infantry, armor, buildings? It hasn't any weak points. IS-2 cannot kill Panther 1on1. When it gets no-brainer abilities like smoke and blitzkrieg it becomes unstoppable. Is it fucking joke? I had a replay with F1-Panter - it moves like GARDENing Schumacher even with damaged engine. Relic, please nerf something (speed, armor, vet1 ability, machingun upgrade or backwards speed) - it's too overperforming and can act against ANY target.
- With Wher mortar nerf, sov mortar will be in a better place, he is more accurate than wher one, and ( at least against wher ) attacking 4 entity squads, and wher is attacking 6 entity squads
- Are you really comparing Tiger anti infantry and panther ? Panther is shitty against infantry, for real, even with MG
- IS2 don't loose against Panther
- Back speed = speed going forward, and its the same for all tanks, its lelic fault
- Do you know the tech price and the price for a panther itself ?
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