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Thread: Pak43 buff9 Dec 2013, 22:04 PM The thing to bare in mind using pak43's, is that there are a lot of soviet doctrines which do not have arty strikes and also rely on T3. That's the golden situation to use a pak43, because those strats usually centre around strong tanks. It's just learning which doc they are and picking yours later to counter. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.9 Dec 2013, 21:55 PM My point is that if your not building some form of vehicle aided by soviet industry, you have to be building infantry, if you don't you will have lost the game in 5 mins. But if you build say 5 squads, then activate industry, well it cripples your MP income, so after reinforcing all your damaged squads... You will have no manpower left to build any new units. So that's why I say moving the ability later is not such a simple fix. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Germans Anti tank capabilities.9 Dec 2013, 21:45 PM Shreks just seem to get smashed so easily. Not worth the munis, especially as they can be dropped and stolen. I'd rather spend munis on tellars and Have paks, with Faust handy to defend pak. Your right about stugs and paks being defensive Blitz, but pretty much any 34/85 strat evolves around a weak early game, often getting pushed back to base, then 85s bringing you back into it. Germans need to learn to set up defence once they are far up map. It should be screaming tellars high up ( just like fighting quick M8). The hardest part of this game though is identifying what the soviet is doing when your German, because making the wrong teck decision can easily be catastrophic. This was easier in vcoh, due to less options. I think as people get more practised, it will start to happen more. Everything is still constantly evolving, not least because of new commanders. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.9 Dec 2013, 19:47 PM I think you have to be carful changing the CP of industry, because if its too late, you force the soviet to build an army they will not be able to afford to reinforce. I'm not sure if 1 CP would be too late in that regard. But by 1 CP you normally have about 5 inf units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Germans Anti tank capabilities.9 Dec 2013, 19:39 PM And a stug could probably still beat an 85 if it gets the stun on it. A large part of why 85s are so powerful is that they come in 2s which is a lot of tank. People need to learn they are coming and get adequate preparations. Similar to facing an Ace. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Predictions for announcement from Noun during SNF9 Dec 2013, 16:29 PM Regarding the tiger Ace, I doubt you would be able to hide while waiting 10 mins, be a use your army would drain too much MP, you would have nothing left after 10 mins. The reason you can nurse an army with the ace out, is because of how much the ace protects a large part of the map and draws fire. In 1v1s I highly suspect any game to be won or lost within 10mins, however the German plays it. In big team games though, the ace is a lot easier to kill, t34s to ram are in no short supply. So I think that is the reason for the change... So it is less suicidal for an entire team when 1 person calls it. If it happens in 1v1 that someone sits defensively with ace for 10 mins, soviet probably didn't try hard enough drain them elsewhere. In: Lobby
Thread: Germans Anti tank capabilities.9 Dec 2013, 16:18 PM The reason people are saying stugs are a good counter has nothing at all to do with their range, it's simply because they are cheaper. You want multiple cheaper tanks with good damage vs vehicles, backed up by paks. That's cheaper than multiple 34/85s and will trump them. Mark target it more of a waste on a stug, simply because of costs. Ram is also a waste. Not to mention that paks AND stugs have the stun ability which will own 34/85s in their tracks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet Industry needs to be nerfed.9 Dec 2013, 14:55 PM Well tanks chasing down retreating inf is nerfed so they should find it hard to finish them off. That's a bonus. TBH I play mostly soviet, and I don't like industry, because its too predictable and easily countered. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Germans Anti tank capabilities.9 Dec 2013, 14:47 PM Exactly, soviets have a few abilities to deal with strong individual tanks, that means that it's better to build up a few cheaper ones before calling something heavy. Then protect it with your life. Just calling a tiger on its own can work, but it's asking for rams and mark targets. Throw in a pak and tellar(s), things get difficult. I play with guard motor (no T3/4) a lot, and it's hella strong with the 34/85's. it works well because people think they are winning when they push you off map and have 2 tanks to your zero... But they don't realise you are seconds away from your dual 85s clearing the field. What people need to realise, is that this strat has no indirect fire above a 120mm.. And no off map arty. So Germans do well when they set up a defensive position.. Pak43 can be a really good counter here. If the soviet feels forced to teck to T4 for katys.. That's a lot of wasted fuel, and no more scary 34/85s In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Luftwaffe Supply Doctrine9 Dec 2013, 09:03 AM Ah thanks for clearing that up for me. Yeah it can certainly be used to get a fast tank, then maybe back teck to T2 and play mostly infantry with lots of munis. How large is the medic heal radius? In: COH2 Gameplay