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Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game20 Jun 2014, 09:42 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2014, 09:09 AMKatitof If you start with T1, you need AT nades or you'll be obliterated by AC if you want to play without guards. If you start with T2, you need molos for clearing buildings as you obviously won't have flamer M3. And no, AT guns can't easily deal with P4s, not without numbers, not without AT nades snaring them for their 50% longer then PaK reload to give effect and without guards to hold it in place. Its not even theorycrafting here, its plain logic if you have any idea on how sov units work(which in your case might be a questionable ability). You only need 40 fuel to get the other tier . that's 4 min into the game. sometime people have not even engaged the opponent on larger maps. if he goes tier 2 and buy even one vehicle then its already pretty much even. Its a small delay to get my t-34 out but this gains me great benefits early and late game. as i generally use a combination of maxims penals and guards. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game20 Jun 2014, 08:55 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2014, 08:50 AMKatitof Thats only viable if you plan on using nothing but call-ins for late game. Otherwise tech costs and the mandatory need to get molo and AT nade will put you so far back that by the time you'll pump up first T34, a pair of P4s will be on the field. who says i need molo and at nades? and at guns can easily deal with any p4 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game20 Jun 2014, 08:44 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 18:04 PMJHeartless Yes I agree. Before the patch it was useful. And before the patch it didnt cost almost as much as a conscript squad in MP. If they want to roll it back to where it was suits me. Just lower back down its cost. Edit: And the PTRS is garbage now. Its only good in a M3. Go try to kill a 222 with it outside an M3 post last nerf. The DPLMG is great now though ill give you that. But its very expensive. Giving less muni to acutally button or doctrine dependant mark vehicle. With that being said T1 seems to break the rule relic posed a little while ago where call ins should augment an army not replace things. Guards being required goes against this. So strange that so many soviet players do not seem to get that its perfectly viable to get tier 1 and 2 and dont need guards. Buts that for another time. The mp m3 cost increased buts its fuel got decreased. But i do agree that a transport only m3 should only cost 140/10 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game20 Jun 2014, 08:35 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2014, 08:21 AMWhat Doth Life?! The way to "shred" infantry with MG42 is with the Incendiary Rounds. Very true but this ability also requires a very long reload time making it a bit difficult to use. when you do manage to pull it of its awesome. it is, my teammates and i have done it before. Then your playing against people who love to blob up their stuff. The gun traverse is so slow that you can attack at the edge of the cone and till get into molotov range before the mg42 starts shooting. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game20 Jun 2014, 06:41 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2014, 06:30 AMpigsoup when a soviet player charges conscript into the arc of mg 42 to throw a molotov, he is risking/spending 240mp unit, time for the con to retreat and re-up, probably 60+ mp for reinforcement, and 15 mu. just for an obvious molotov that becomes evident even before the animation starts... which buys 4-5 sec of no mg42 while it repositions. i think it's ok to let the soviet player throw the molotov. even if 3 squads of cons are charging mg42 with spotter, its more than possible to suppress all of them just before the molotov lands. No it isnt. and your idea about balance is frankly absurd. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game19 Jun 2014, 18:00 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 17:22 PMJHeartless And your solution? Nerf it into total uselessness. It also has no turret. It has less armor facing better long range DPS. No forcing doctrine choice is a weakness (only a pure German player would say otherwise). T2 you do not NEED any particular Doctrine. Using Tier 1 YOU NEED a Guards Doctrine unless you totally outclass your opponent. T1 Soviets is a Pig with lipstick. The lipstick is exploitation of timing and mechanics. (M3 although worse comes sooner, Sniper can be exploited to early retreating due to faction design). I dont like M3 play nor sniper play. I have no dog in this fight because I feel that T1 is a weak choice unless you are a top 100 player or a bottom 10K player. In the middle where Ost players are decent and Soviet players dont have super micro its playing Russian Roulette. But what you propose is to make it absurdly useless. And we have enough useless units in this game already. Nonsense. Before the new weapon profile patch the m3 was an excellent anti mg42 unit that drove a flame engi squad into the flank of the mg42. That hasn't changed in fact it got even better at it as it received more hp in the same patch. Reducing its damage will not make this unit useless. And yes i would also say that forced to choose doctrines is a weakness provided that the guards doctrines are not equipped with the best stuff and lo behold they do come with the best stuff. and turretless is meaning concept if has a tail gun , 7 speed and a good rotation rate. It doesnt need this kind of DPS and that needs to be nerfed heavily. If you play exclusively tier 2 i can understand that you dont know completely batshit insane op this unit is on some maps. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game19 Jun 2014, 16:28 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 15:06 PMJHeartless And the 221/222 should be moar better!!!! What you propose is an absurd overnerf. Like Katitof said it would be fine if the cost were reduced to almost nothing. And maybe thats what should be done. Almost no manpower cost and a slight fuel cost with no real armor or HPs and a squad risk as it can explode. Then if they are that cheap you can have a highly mobile force where every squad can easily afford this gimped M3 and move around the field at lightning speed at risk. Cut this BS out. You make no comparisons to the 221/222 or the german HT because if you do you will see that the m3 Brutally cost effective for what its doing. Katitof is right the 221 does more damage on long range but loses on mid and short range. That alone is fucking absurd. A dedicated attack vehicle that is more expensive loses a dps war with the m3. Lets sum up all its advantages. it comes out very early it has better dps then both other german LV's it serves as a mobile weapon platform and transport for the soviet infantry. Mate this unit is as broken as the sentinel of Dow 2 . sure it will becomes crap later on but in the early game you have no counter to this mobile bunker with a BFG on top of it. And the complaint that the you need to choose a guards unit is about the worst argument i can think of because guards sync so well with tier 1 and they have the best late game stuff. so its not a weakness In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game19 Jun 2014, 12:39 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 12:11 PMThe Silver Sage Bit of a knee-jerk over-reactive nerf to the M3 in my opinion if you did that. You want to cripple it's ability to do damage (taking note that a properly used M3 is meant to shoot from max range to avoid faust so generally you will be using that accuracy profile to calculate dps anyway) and reduce it's paper thin armour even more without a reduce in price? What player who can calculate the value of a unit would ever waste resources on that? I would have no problem with the M3 getting a health reduction even if the cost stayed the same because if you use it well it shouldn't get caught. That way it couldn't absorb so much hits and bleed German MP without needing to fall back for repairs. I dont agree. I envision the m3 to be used as a quick flanker. reducing its hp and making it a glass cannon will completely destroy this units utility early-midgame game. The problem lies solely in its fighting ability. that should be severely reduced. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game19 Jun 2014, 11:52 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 10:14 AMKatitof Then let me tell you this: You're adorable. i love you 2. However you still have not explained why this unit that can transport a single infantry squad should have more fire-power then the 221. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M3 + maxim + Sniper spam 2v2 - Early game19 Jun 2014, 10:07 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2014, 10:02 AMKatitof Obviously its cost goes down to 100-120mp 5fu, right? nope stays the same and just be as cost effective as the rest of the vehicles in the game even with the nerfs In: COH2 Balance