Profile of ZombiFrancis

More than anything, forget about being OKW and remember that teamwork is what 4v4s are about. Whatever you do, communicate and coordinate with your teammates. Make pushes and retreats as a team. All too often you'll have 2 players alternating getting 2v1ed. I don't care how big your e-nuts may be, if you act alone in a 4v4 you'll probably find yourself being overwhelmed every time.

Any other advice I could give is entirely situational. If you and your teammates are all noobs, you're never going to know exactly the best engagements to fight. But you can try to talk to your teammates even if it's your first game of coh.

Tiers and teching need balancing and redesign on WFA armies. I mean, when core units of a faction are mistimed or over/underperforming, the entire faction design needs to be flexible. Otherwise the problem just keeps moving around.

Brits need to just be in their own game where they can play against other Brits.

the biggest mistake during WBP was making surveys for ALL, even a total noob could give a vote, that's why we got penals PTRS and other unreasonable changes, and another survey for tank balance will mean that axis tanks will get utterly nerfed cuz you know, 4v4 noobs really hate axis tanks being "OP"

Well, Penal PTRS weren't even apart of the survey. The power of Penals into Guards was, with Penals rocking AI, and Guards having the clutch AT.

Guards have been nerfed to oblivion, but their PTRS still serves its function, but hopefully that and Penals not having cover-negating flamethrowers will be enough.

I still don't get Penal PTRS, but I really do enjoy the AT satchel option. That alone keeps vehicles from acting like they aren't there.

A veterancy adjustment for Penals and removing the flamethrower (or replacing it with a DP-28 or two), and Guards having to purchase PTRS I think would've been a lot simpler.

You know, I don't disagree with you, but I refute the notion that going med truck means your army is vulnerable to light vehicles:

Raketens, Schrecks, Panzerfausts and Schu Mines.

Also, the Mech Truck has the Stuka zu Fuss which can be an invaluable form of indirect fire for OKW. It by no means deprives OKW of indirect fire. But it does cost a lot of fuel, can't ignore that.

Risk-Reward may sound like a good notion, but OKW has enough firepower in its T0 to have a backbone the entire game. Tech choice for OKW is more about countering your opponent's strategy than anything. I mean, I think the most hardfast rule to OKW teching is you go mech truck if you've got a strong fuel advantage, medic truck if you're against brit emplacements, because ISG. The Luchs is there for when you have a Soviet t1 situation (for now) or literal maxim spam.

Either way as OKW you're going for that FlakHQ and ultimately the KT.

Also IMO, for the CoH franchise, risks vs rewards are best felt in maneuvering and positioning units rather than teching and build orders.

Hey if the CP's main gun didn't benefit from the Mark ability, that might suffice.

I decided to sift through the Attribute Editor to get some numbers on the different Panthers.

There is a modifier that is applied to just about every vehicle with a ballistic weapon in the game that I've looked at.

requirement action:
action: multiplication of scatter value by 2 applied to hardpoint_01

requirement_table
required_not: not_moving

This value matches for the Ostheer panther and the Command Panther. But the normal OKW panther's scatter is only multiplied by 1.7. This should mean that moving shots have a better chance to still convert into a hit with the stock OKW panther.

(Interestingly enough, the Stuart has a value of 1.75, which was another oddity to the rule of x2. The 76mm Sherman completely lacks this modifier, adding to its already high moving accuracy.)

As many people know, the moving accuracy modifier is 0.5 for the Ostheer Panther, but also the Command Panther. The stock OKW panther has 0.65 moving accuracy. (And less multiplication to scatter when moving.)

The Ostheer Panther has a far accuracy of 0.03, where the other Panthers have 0.035.

The Command Panther supports a midrange AOE value of .35 instead of .15 for the other panthers. Near misses deal a whole lot more damage with the Command Panther, which spells out much stronger AI capabilities. This I think translates best (or really only) against team weapons, especially when/if the shell hits the team weapon.

(The Command Panther also deals no suppression with its maingun. This I know is negligible.)

There is also a weapon in the Attribute Editor called "panther_kwk42_75mm_vet_mp" but I can't find any reference to where this is used. THIS gun has a moving accuracy modifier of 1. Otherwise it is identical to the stock OKW panther gun.

I went through the vet levels of the Panthers and couldn't find a point where it replaced anything.

All-in-all I think it's worth pointing out that the benefits of the Command Panther include its team game benefits, and the notion that it doesn't require the FlakHQ to be up. Now, while the FlakHQ is pretty critical to OKW anyway, the fact that the CP can be called in if it is destroyed is notable. Had a teamgame the other night where Comets wrecked by base, but the panic-panther saved.