I can't help but feel frustration seeing my T-34 bounce shots off the back of an Elefant at 10 range. Discounting Ram+Offmap, discounting SU-85 (which cannot fight an Elefant), discounting AT Guns (which will be vulnerable to capture since you're wheeling them up to the enemy's front line), I'm at a loss as to what the appropriate course of action is. I've expressed this before and have yet to receive an answer from anybody.
I somehow second this feeling, but I am not sure if it is actually the case.
I think at this point some thoughts about UKF and USF are in order.
What stock options in your opinion do these two factions have to be able to deal with the Elefant?
The way I see it:
USF:
- ATG: If you invest muni, it is alright. Otherwise in general not the greatest counter to the Elefant, at least to to kill it.
- Sherman: Better pen, but overall the higher costs than the T34. Overall I'd rather have a T34 to attack an Elefant than a Sherman.
- Jackson: Better than the SU85 because quick and turreted. Plus AT ammo. Overall TDs are mediocre at best though in countering the Elefant.
- snares: Only on Rifles that need to push up far. Worse than Soviet Conscripts with ourah and snare.
UKF:
- ATG: Slightly better than the ZiS at the job, however also more easily wiped.
- Crommwell: Same situation as with the T34, although with hunt and war speed better than the Sherman.
- Firefly: Turreted and with stun, but slow so it can't flank. Usable for the stun.
- snares: worst of the bunch.
I think Soviets have the hardest time in killing the Elefant, but the easiest in mitigating it by snaring and forcing longer repairs. This is okay in the beginning, but the problem will build up with a vetting Elefant.
Instead of ramming the Elefant with a T34, I went to just driving into it. This makes the Elefant jerk around randomly and show rear armor to the front line while being unable to retreat and snarable. My T34 can still fire for the time it is alive and this allows my SUs to participate as well.
It is still cheesy AF and if possible should be designed differently.
In the long game, the best strategy in my eyes is to bleed the infantry first, so the Elefant will have phases of low support. If I fail to do that, I usually fail to kill the Elefant.