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Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 17:42 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 16:43 PMBasedSecretary Sketchy, agreed. Nonexistant, no. "Close to being a prototype" is a critique only you make and most historians disagree with. I didnt say none excistant. Close to it. On the rest yeah i agree they will probably disagree. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 17:36 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 14:37 PMBasedSecretary Same way Ratte is fiction even though it got the stamp of approval from Hitler and OKW Production team. It's one thing to have tanks fight in a funny way to simplify gameplay (since IRL tank battles were boring as shit) and a whole other thing to have paper tanks fighting it out on *1941 NA of all places*. Not even a Tiger should be there but whatever. Imagine a fucking WW1 Landship fighting alongside PzIIIs in COH3. You would not like that would you? Well that's the same amount of technological gap that exists between 1941 (where COH3 takes place) and 1945 (where BP was barely even assembled). Ratte was an unrealistic and unpractical design thought up by people who missed the mark. That it would actually be usefful is fiction at its best. The bp however though not deployed was a realistic and viable design. Based or previous designs that saw action, not something completly new and untried. When its boring historical acc is not important apperently. Gameplay and fun even when its fictiinal for a large part beats historical acc on a game that is suposed be as historical accurate as possible... Again you go on and on about history drumming up crazy shit tobtryband prove toubare right, such as ww1 landbattle ships facing ww2 pz3 and stating thats the same tech difference of start and end off ww2. If thats true why do you think having early war soviets and late war axis is fine from a standpoint based on historical accuracy and authentisity? Ow wait fun and gameplay are now more important. Really nice selective logic. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 16:14 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 14:33 PMBasedSecretary The one decent question here. Thanks for bringing it up. Sturmtiger, due to its nature as a very specific purpose vehicle, was not at first directly recorded at the Wehrmacht's Inventory Designation with the "SturmTiger" tag simply because they did not know how to label it since it had a Tiger I chassis but a custom made 274kg breechloading Raketenwerfer. It is estimated that the first five models were not registered with the PzStuMrKp designation. As such the number of available ST produced varies between 19-25 models. Obviously not of statistical significance but you had one jab to take me down and you took advantage of it. Nice try tho. Note: A very interesting analysis of the SturmTiger effectiveness can be found here JENTZ, Thomas L. & DOYLE, Hilary L. Panzer Tracts No. 20-1 - Paper Panzers : Panzerkampfwagen, Sturmgeschuetz, and Jagdpanzer. Boyds, MD : Panzer Tracts, 2001. 60 p. ISBN 0-9708407-3-X. As for the combat effectiveness part your take is dumb for two reasons: first nobody can effectively assess a vehicle that was produced for a specific purpose but never seriously got a chance to prove itself on it. Leaving wikipedia aside and actually reading the literature, you will find (as noted above) that the ST was used only once for its intented role, that is close range urban warfare scenarios. In the Warsaw uprising it was used to take down buildings purportedly belonging to the populace fighting. It was deadly effective. In a common combat scenario I would imagine not so. HOWEVER, and that's where your retardedness really shines, when you attempt to compare ST vs BP you fail automatically because BP NEVER FOUGHT. So following the argument line: "ST was niche -> BP was niche => BP should be included in COH3" is 100% braindead talk simply because BP was never a vehicle that fought. Comparing the combat record of both is ridiculous and anybody who says so should be ashamed of spouting such nonsense to stick it to bad wEhRaBoOs. A very long answer but not much is said. To compare their combat records is stupid indeed. Its just i never compared the st and bp combat preformance and combat history. I never attempted it to begin with. So there is no failure or retardedness here other then bad reading on your part. I stated the st's record is almost none excistant and is very close to being a prototype on its own to where the bp is in history. Hence undeserving of being in coh (esp stock) You also just confirmed here that everything known is rare scetchy and up for debate about the st. That it never got the chance to prove itself in its role is a failure on its own. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 13:16 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 11:55 AMBasedSecretary because those are balancing adjustments and the Black Prince is historical fiction. Simple as that How is it fiction when 6 prototypes got build and we have one still intact? How is misrepresenting history a balance decision in a game supposedly very focused on authentisity? And presenting a tank based on a working and actively serving tank fiction? Again authentisity takes some very big steps to background when it concerns axis factions. Yet minds get blown when this goes in favor off allies. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 13:10 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 11:57 AMBasedSecretary Black Prince Production Volume: 6 prototypes Black Prince Combat History: None VS Sturmtiger Production Volume: About 22. Sturmtiger Combat History: Western Front, Ardennes Offensive. Tell me who is coping now, seriously. The st was produced 19 times and you keep increasing the numbers. Fist it was 20 now its 22. You are making it up as you go? That combat history of the st is not even note worthy. Stop pretending it is. At its very best its vague and scetchy. Again fireing a few shots while doing next to nothing in a battle is not much better then not going further then prototype stage. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game7 Oct 2022, 07:18 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2022, 18:45 PMFargoth88 A WW2 game should strive to be as authentic as possible and COH3 would be a lot more authentic if the changed one unit. No one actually has a good reason for its inclusion anyway. No one asked for it and it’s not exactly a unit that ties the whole faction together. I wanted to respond to just this section. If a unit such as the bp ruins authentisity, why are you people silent in coh 2 about the inclusion of the st and no rescritions on heavy spam? Or about early war soviets vs late war germany? I know why snub nose p4,s that bounce off t34's arent cool, not having panthers and tiger and wunderwaffen/niche units is detracting to the axis factions appeal and makes less money. Every one wants a big cat and then authentisity disapears. Its quite sad that when authenticity comes for axis "gameplay and fun" is suddenly more important. The good reasons for a unit such as the black prince is money with hype. What they did for axis in coh1 and coh 2. I 100% like it that allies now get a wunderwaffen/niche angle as well to mix it up. And freeing allies of td spam every single game. Wich both axis and allies complain about. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game4 Oct 2022, 15:26 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 14:00 PMBasedSecretary The reason I wrote this was to dispell the line of reasoning "ST was made in 20 pieces -> it's niche -> it's overrepresented -> coh is fiction" which is wanky at best. Anyways, are you for or against it? Because 99% of people talking for it just want to stick it to wehraboos not because they truly believe it. I dont mind the bp being in coh3. I also dont mind if another churchill with a beefed gun was added instead. I am just very happy that the bp will probably relieve allies of td spamming, wich most do not enjoy, axis and allies alike. Coh isent fiction and its also not purely historical. It takes some liberties with history to make it interesting. See the overabundend axis heavies because lots of people get a boner because of them. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game4 Oct 2022, 10:35 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 09:59 AMCrecer13 Then it's time for Relic to stop stating again and again that they care about history, authenticity, and that they listen to the community. They already said it when they did CoH2 and shit in their pants. And again they said the same thing when they develop CoH3 and again violate their own words again and again. That's legitimacy for you. Listening doenst mean do as you are told. Wich is what the anti prototype people want. Do as we say... Like it or not the bp isent gonna break or kill the emmersion of the game other then it probably frees allies of td spam to an extent. Wich a lot of player actualy dont like about coh2. So maybe they did listen. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game3 Oct 2022, 18:36 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2022, 12:38 PMBasedSecretary Just for the record: pick the most niche tank you can find in COH2. ST, Ostwind, Hetzer whatever... It still got produced 20x more than BP. Imagine that. Just for the record 20 x 0 is 0. Wich is the contribution of some niche units such as the st to the war. Same as the bp namely 0. it has an interesting history you said, thats subjective. It contributed next to nothing. It was insignificant or rather irrelevant in the war. Statisticly speaking there is no real difference between that and a prototype. The criteria of it needs to have fired a shot in a battle (wich is the argument being made) is a very weak one at best. And even weaker is that then historical accuracy takes a big step back for "gameplay" to step up. If one goes full retard on historical accuracy, be consistant and and stick with it. And dont cherry pick things when it suits you. In: Lobby
Thread: nerf the fking pathfinder and Howitzer29 Sep 2022, 17:57 PM Lol without them usf has no chance to be competitive. Some buffs are defenitly needed if those 2 or just 1 gets nerfed (probably into the ground) In: COH2 Gameplay