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Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 15:22 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 15:14 PMblvckdream No it's not. It's perfectly fine. YE BUT Y NO 1CP THO ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 14:20 PM Again I agree with your point and I wish that was the case. This whole thread is the logical reactionary continuation to the fact that the patch team chose to affect the balance through buffs which leads to the necessity to balance things now by buffing, not nerfing to establish new equilibrium. But even with the mainline infantry issue taken care of I still feel that G43s should either be mirrored to their SOV SVT upgrade counterpart at 1CP or then upped to 60muni cost at 2Cp and have their performance increased to the point where their existence as part of 3 commanders can be justified. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 14:10 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 13:59 PMJibberJabberJobber I forgot to add, I think any buff to G43 should get paired with a reduction to the moving accuracy (currently the weapon has around 90% moving dps, could be lowered to 70%). That way Pgrens and Storms can get four G43's (with price increase) without becoming too strong on the move and G43 Grens would be easier to buff (with price increase) without making blobbing them overly strong. I believe that some marginal buffs could be justified without having to reduce the moving dps just by upping the cost to the 60muni where it should be at 60CP. That being said buffing the G43s should indeed be done in a way that would not promote blobbing and improve skill play. I think that my idea of improving accuracy behind cover would offer those with skill an improved performance, but still in some games where its 4 G43 grens vs 3 double bar RM a-moving towards each other on the open fields of l2p madness there would be zero difference in the performance of grens and they would get spanked just like before. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 12:45 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 12:30 PMKatitof Moving ambulance out of base sector however and using it right behind frontline, I've seen it maybe 3 times over last 4 years. Its because of fragility of the unit, the risk involved isn't worth the reward. I was pointing out to the fact that technically USF has access to forward on-field reinforcement. This might not be practical enough to be worth the risk/reward but then again we could extend this risk/reward argument to lots of features in coh2. Like example g43 grens. It's because of fragility of the unit, the risk involved isn't worth the reward. Thus coming to conclusion that ostheer has no access to short range weapon upgrades for their mainline infantry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 12:06 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 11:48 AMKatitof Show me 1 recent competitive replay where its used to reinforce forward. No u! Something being a feature and not getting used does not remove those properties and diminish them or negate their existence. I bet you'd similarly be hard-pressed to find anyone in the competitive 1v1 scene using 251s for the sole purpose of forward reinforcing on the regular basis despite the fact that it is a powerful tool left mostly untapped. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 11:42 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 11:20 AMKatitof And have easiest and earliest access to on-field reinforcement vehicles, contrary to their counterparts who does not have one at all or its locked late in tech or doctrines. WaT iS t0 AmBaLanCe??? suffers flashbacks from USF + SOV early ambulance + maxim spam in Minsk Pocket camping axis fuel before t1 teched. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Easy USF fix3 Oct 2019, 10:27 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 10:04 AMblvckdream So maybe make smoke vet 1 and mine vet 2. On top of that remove the bazooka from the vehicle crew. Ah yes the vehicle crew zooks. The honeypot ability that turns the predator into the pray. If you got bamboozled into thinking that 222 was hardcounter to m20 think again! If the crew jumps out at the sight of 222 they have enough time to chace after and get in 2 shots and kill the 222 if it decides to try and stay in to destroy the m20. And this is without the side skirts btw. BALANCE! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 10:11 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2019, 10:07 AMthekingsown10 Additionally, Grenadiers should be able to build their own sandbags considering how much they rely on shooting from behind cover. I think that none of the mainline infantry should be able to build sandbags/cover unless it's a commander feature. That should be left for pios and engineers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Easy USF fix3 Oct 2019, 09:51 AM Remove m20 vehicle crew and self repair ability. No more bully axis until you overreach, get fausted and then 20s and you are back on the field! This super early light vehicle already has early initiative, smoke and mine abilities making it earn its price. This way damaging it would be rewarded with decreasing USFs field presence and capping power for a moment instead of feeling like winning the coh2 r-tard olympics for wasting munis before 222 hits the field. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Grens UP & G43s suck3 Oct 2019, 09:28 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2019, 20:18 PMJibberJabberJobber I'd increase cost to 60 muni and give like -10% RA bonus and -10% reinforcement cost. Would make them a bit more cost effective on their own, while making initial cost higher. I'm happy to see a lot of great points made in this thread about how to make the g43s better. This one particularly made by derbyhat would in my mind fit the supposed role of g43s perfectly. I'm totally on the side of g43s getting their cost increased and getting a small buff if they remain at 2cp. Another possible way to make them better without us seeing blobs of g43s that came to my mind would be to mirror the properties of other scoped axis weapons like JLI g43s and obers infra stgs: Just slightly boost the accuracy against units behind cover. Opponent would be punished for trying to engage in static warfare at medium range and would be forced to either advance to the short range or withdraw to gain more favourable engagement. This would finally make use of that dps on the move speciality as they could chase after the withdrawing units. In: COH2 Balance

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