Profile of Rosbone

I see what you guys are saying. The barrage was actually firing early.

Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking the button only had 2 states, but it has 3 states.
- Off
- Armed
- Firing

I am still confused by some things in the video. Will keep looking.

If you look at the start of the clip, the katy starts moving at around 24:07. And you can see it rotating on the minimap right before it fires.

So it could have been ordered to fire way back at 24:07. Moved to position, rotated, and fired? Could just be a guess that something would be there since he has units on the left and right side and just saw the puma and AT guns in mid. Infantry had to be somewhere.

My point is the replays dont tell the whole story. We need Relic to store the actual commands. All we are seeing is the result of a command. We dont know when the command was issued?

1) It could have been around 24:06 at the blob area.
2) It could have been issued to hit the AT guns mid, and was then modified last second to the blob.

????????

Why are you counting when the first rockets appear? Bottom right you can see the ability activation icon. The barrage ability was activated before the first unit was sighted.

Seeking had clicked the ability but had not told the game where to shoot yet. You can only see the RED arrows on screen of the live game not, in the replay.

So all that says is he was waiting for a target, saw one, and then fired.

You could argue that since the katy was pointed right at the blob he knew the blob was coming? Or just more game sense/luck?

What makes you mapmakers and casual players believe that you have a say in this and actually be the one defending justice?

My personal interest in this story is two fold:
- How exactly does the game work?
- How much proof is required to keep tournaments feeling legit?

HOW DOES THE GAME WORK:
Most people know a lot about computers. How did they learn? Stuff broke and they had to figure it out. No one learns when stuff is working correctly.

In the last few days I have thought about and learned many different things about this game and how it operates. This is why people like Sturmpanther knows way more than a new player. He has worked thru these problems many times and learned each time.

But no one knows everything and can see every possible side to the story.

And who is going to spend weeks looking at this stuff to prove/disprove theories for free?

Most people will watch the AE video and dismiss Seeking as a cheater without much thought or work. But if you sit and go thru each scenario frame by frame you may come to a different conclusion.


HOW MUCH PROOF IS REQUIRED:
Tournaments require that all players are clean. If anyone is suspect and that person does well, the whole tournament was a waste of time and is ruined.

You young guys should lookup the SNL skit where they had the first person to ruin things. Like this guys says "I used to pickup hitch hikers then one day I thought I should kill them." Now no one wants to hitch hike. One person cheating ruins the whole show. It is what is wrong with society. People figured this out millenia ago and started doing things like chopping off your hands if you steal. It is that important to never be the one person to bring it all down. Dont be that guy.

For Relic to ban a player should require a lot of proof. Who cares if you do well in automatch.

A tournament may not require as much proof.

I just rewatched the clip and at no point does the fuel point start flashing red and when they untick fog of war you can see its already capped. Also his cutoff wasn't taken, the one youre referring to is south base cutoff. Rewatch the video, his cutoff is in vision almost the whole time and no enemy squad touches it that I see.

You will probably only see the territory flash IN GAME. Not spectating a replay. So it does not flash in the video.

The point where Seeking is making bags touches the south fuel and south cutoff.

The south cutoff was already taken before the fuel is taken. So Seeking would have known at 1:25 game time that there is a squad to his south west (cutoff) and to his south (fuel).

The southwest squad can either go to the mid VP or the point Seeking is on. A smart player would converge their two squads at the point Seeking is on (to out number the enemy). Because they would also see a flashing territory and know Seeking is there.

If I was Seeking I would have pulled back probably earlier than he did. But he may have been looking at something else or was waiting to see if the mid VP area started flashing.

The problem is WE dont have the replays, so we have these spectate games where the operator is flashing the FOW on/off. You have no context as to what happened before that may have been a clue to Seeking. And how can we expect Seeking to remember every detail of games from a week or two ago??? I dont remember 15 minutes ago

sry but what unit do you mean? Only the pathfinders are involved in this situation. The sturms havent seen the rear echelons at all

Looking at AEs video at game time 1:25 he pauses.

At this point Seeking may have seen the territory switch from flashing RED to solid white. So you know something just capped/is capping that point and is probably moving towards you.

In my test below, the territory flashed red then turns solid white when captured.



Just a thought. I have about 4 hours of sleep so take it with a grain of salt

EDIT:
I use this mechanic all the time in 4v4, but dont pay attention to the details of how it works. I just see the colors and know something is there.

EDIT #2:
The cutoff was already taken and Seeking would have saw that also. So he would really know someone is headed his way soon.