1) Liene Forest is one of the most played and picked maps in cups
2) Forward HQ does not really work vs a premade axis team. Vs randoms and people who don't know to deal with it yes there it works
3) Look at the post from Lord Rommel. And hill400 too small? Its too large and no flanks possible^^. And you never can have double fuel
1) Because people are dumb does not make it valid

2) Forward HQ works against everyone always. I played some high level guys the other day and kept them at bay and had double the scores of everyone playing because I went Urban Defense. And I suck. On Lienne Forrest you get a RUS and BRIT with forward HQ and its RIP GG.
3) 4v4 maps are not that much bigger or at least do not need to be much bigger since most 4v4 maps have about 40% of their main area that never sees play at all. Could be a lake which takes 30 seconds to make. Not sure how many times I have played redball and went "Whats over here? I have never been over there....ever...." Fields of Winnenkendonk could be turned into a 4v4 in about 3 hours. Now getting enough players to test a 4v4 is the real problem. That is why we have not seen one yet. But I can imagine Currahee and Hooligan could get us some players if asked nicely

You guys are missing the point just to argue (cause coh2 players love to argue

The maps could also be tested 3v3 since there are almost no 3v3 maps. Angermunde FULL of buildings.
