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This is a great discussion to have. Because on paper, Caen looks like a great map. Yet somehow many people do not like it. The live version appears a little unbalanced as North gets better building placement on the sides. Which has probably been fixed for a year on the NEW version.

So what do people dislike about the map? Does anyone like any urban maps?

Thoughts:
1) I am not a fan of forward cutoffs such as these and Hill 400. It is hard to overcome a dug-in enemy on one point. Now you have to overcome them on two points (with green cover on this map). GG. I would rather see a cutoff as it is implied, cutting off supply lines. So it should be closer to your base but somewhat reachable by the enemy to push or sneak up to. But I applaud Mono for trying to mix up the boring meta of map making.
2) I think many players may not like buildings since they are never passable. Even heavy crush will never create a path thru them. So they feel like rats in a maze mentally?
3) Similarly, they tend to be cluttered and have light vehicle pathing issues (not that Caen does).
4) Some urban maps have large amounts of negative cover which make flanks and retreats hard. Caen has almost no negative cover on live version.
5) Some urban maps feel like lanes you push thru. With very little flanking options. This map has a lot of little paths to get around to aid in flanking. It is difficult to just set and forget an MG to cover a lane on this map.

For years I have had discussions with a well known map maker who states "everyone wants to play the same old boring rural maps. They do not want to change their play style or cant." This map looks like it has done everything it can to be a great urban map. What else can you do? Just get rid of urban and industrial?

Thanks! So far that's the best I've got.

It starts at around 19 minutes in.

Was playing around with a Green Screen map. Then creating a masked PNG from the resulting screenshot. Then added blur and cheesy fire blast.

You know that maybe in DBP forward hq got nerfed?

That is what I said in my original post:
"Lorch Assault and Lienne Forrest are current soviet Urban Defense instawins. Will be interesting to test these with the DBP."

My point is that in the 2v2 contest many maps were pulled because of buildings, yet 50% of the maps in the tourney are all buildings. You cant have it both ways. Either buildings are bad or they are not.

But I can see the need to test building maps with the DBP since garrison times have been changed considerably.

A few observations:

1. The 2v2 map contest is not using any of the urban or industrial maps that have buildings. The first tournament after the contest has three of six maps FULL of buildings. Lorch Assault and Lienne Forrest are current soviet Urban Defense instawins. Will be interesting to test these with the DBP.

2. Lorch Assault is one of the higher voted maps that needs to be removed because it is FULL of buildings and everyone camps mortars, yet it makes it into the 4v4 tournament.

3. We need a 4v4 map contest fast, since clearly only about four of the current maps are any good for tournament play. I am including Hill 400 which some may feel is too small and has cancerous cutoffs.