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aight so i decided to do some testing and heres what i found:
the il-2 strafe is indeed alright at all targets, it usually about half healthed infantry when strafed and DOES deal suppression without a pin
against hard targets, its pen is rather low so you need to hit the rear armour

the JU87 AT strafe, is believe it or not MUCH better at AT, but can still also be used against soft targets, but poorly. though it does deal supression as well.

one thing that is devastating for the il-2 strafe, is that the gunner seems to have a mind of its own. i could not get reliable hits on about anything, because it seems the cannons have a scatter of sorts. they KINDA go in a pair of lines, but not always and CERTAINLY not in a way that you can predict. this i believe is what leads to its poor performance as when it hits it does well for a 90mu strafe (JU87 is 110mu)
in contrast the JU87 has a VERY reliable shooting pattern that covers the entirety of the target area, it zig-zags but reliably.

another thing of note, the il-2 does piss all against vehicles and decrewed weapons, this means while the ju87 can still be used in conjunction with another off map to destroy arty the il-2 cannot,

GRANTED as i stated earlier, i had a hard time getting consistent results with the il-2 simply due to the scatter

For a while it did surprisingly well against armour, but I think those days are gone, perhaps making it a meh hybrid of all strafe? Kinda multipurpose and flexible but not fantastic at anything. Say, okish AI damage, suppression (but not enough to pin) and some deflection damage (super low pen) so the AT portion can be controlled tightly. Then it's always useful but not always great.

maxim has an easier time suppressing the units its not shooting at than the ones it is. it truely is a fucked up unit...

You really really don't want active sprint Obers. Between bundle and IR StG 44s and being almost impossible to close in on, it's a bad combo.

In any case, this whole discussion is moot imho. Ober combat performance is fine I think, just their timing was off (and getting buffed next patch). It's a 4 man squad facing artillery and light/med vehicles.

There are commanders that give pgrens sprint so it would more or less be the same, but a lot later and free.

I think we should get rid of tech and unit costs. Why are we limiting the game with arbitrary prices of things when we could just have all the units we want at any time?