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Thread: Stupa (Brummbar poll) 22 Feb 2020, 15:41 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2020, 09:58 AMT.R. Stormjäger Agreed, either that or a damage reduction modifier like the KV1 has to prevent longer repair times. Let’s wait and see how it performs with the armour buff first. Idk know about the damage reduction on the brumbar...the kv has a damage reduction because its only job is to soak damage its not a high impact unit like the brumm. A brum that can repair and be back quickly would be too mucj given how hard ot hits. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea21 Feb 2020, 00:39 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 22:04 PMMazianni That'd basically be making vet 3 Grenadiers as durable as vet 3 Rangers. Just with some ugly math. 0.7*0.8 = 0.56 "effective" model "hp". I'm really not sure that's a great idea at all. For reference, vetted Obersoldaten have like 0.5 RA on a 4 person squad; Grenadiers would be only slightly less resistant to bullet type weapons, and moreso versus AOE types. EDIT: I think some of you guys really underrate damage reduction; this effects basically every single weapon in the game minus crits and it basically stacks on RA when you consider accuracy-based weapons, and Grenadiers already start at a respectable 0.91 RA. Could split the difference then. 10% DR from vet and 10% from t4? Id like their late game durability to not be tied exclusively to not losing the squishiest mainline in the game.. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea20 Feb 2020, 22:00 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 21:59 PMMazianni What do you put in vet 3 then? The rec acc buff that used to be at vet 3. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards should be more viable anti-infantry in the early game20 Feb 2020, 21:59 PM Not neccessary really... soviet have enough AI early game and even woth ptrs guards are formidable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea20 Feb 2020, 21:58 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 21:38 PMMazianni Which is reduced by the 0.8 DR that is gained at vet 3. Which is why they gain vet quicker in this proposal. Why not just cut out the middle man and give them the DR at t4? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea20 Feb 2020, 21:49 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 12:34 PMPrinceps where were u when UKF got a snare, usf gets a morter, no double sniper for SU and HMG got 4 Men. Why not the 5men when u got T4 and ur grens vet3 ? or make them 280 and the option to get 2 LMG... or make the lmg better. There is a quite a difference from a newish faction getting a snare and getting 25% more models just slapped onto a squad thay was designed and tweaked for the better part of a decade without. Look at the trouble 7 man cons are causing and they dont have most of their firepower concentrated onto 1 model (which is like so to offset the low models, incase you didnt know, which im certain you didnt) Again, usf got a mortar because garrisons were an issue. A newish faction lacking fundimental tools experimentally proved to not work as the strain on having ti tech nades was too inflexible for what was supposed to be the most flexible faction. For the 2 man sniper, for years i had been offering solutions to the issue and was still fighting against it after launch so..... And hmg getting 4 men? Are you talking about back in BETA? like before the game was actually released? Before the game features were firmed up and things like penatration wasnt dynamic, scatter was fixed at all ranges, shreks had aoe like tanks, the elefant was a stock unit? Back then? Id say since that was before the game was released and not many years later we could let that one slide under "faction not actually completed and still up in the air" Territory. Ost if very well established now and 5 man squad durability can be attained otherwise without screwing with faction design. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Guards M5 HT20 Feb 2020, 21:34 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 15:22 PMLago If you want spammable CQC troops, you can pick a Shock doctrine, a PPSh doctrine, Soviet Airborne, you don't lack for options. If you want the CP3 Meat Chopper bundle, you pick Lend Lease. You are missing the point of what im saying. Ass guards are neat. Id like to use them more but dont want to pop cap out by having a hoard of m5s. It would be neat if after unlocked i could get this neat doctrinal unit without the fuel cost and inclusion of a very accessible stock unit. As for overlap, these guards are different than shocks in ability,skin and vet. They fill a sinilar role but are different which is not a unique thing to the soviet. Having a unit that is effectively a one off shhould at least have nore synergy with the bundle. If they are to remain hard linked id like to see more out of the halftrack itself if not guards as well. A squishier halftrack wouldnt be an issue either if it had more support ability than the standard stock HT. it IS taking up a whole commander slot... perhaps the repair halftrack from ardennes assault (i know there is already con repair but again, similar but different) or med kits or even the brit weapon drop HT (tuned turned heavily for the soviet perhaps with a heafty muni increase that would compete with the fuel drop for resources) I guess what im saying is despite its impact at its timing, being forved to buy a standard stock vehcle with a unique infantry unit is kinda shitty. The bundle would be more palpable if it was both unique units and arguable more balanced as the kraut mower is bullet proof and quite strong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Guards M5 HT20 Feb 2020, 11:03 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2020, 00:25 AMLago If you want to call in several squads of elite CQC troops, Shocks are better. What's the benefit of making Assault Guards just another CQC squad? Is it worth the cost of killing off a now fairly unique mechanic and playstyle? But shocks are not in this doctrine, ass guards are. Shocks have armour and ass guards do not which nmakes them easier to squish in where shocks would be OP, like they would be alomg side the m4c and DSHK... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea19 Feb 2020, 22:27 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2020, 22:24 PMDonnieChan What is the problem with the 5 men Grenadier in t4 again? Faction identity, homogenization, takes away from the doctrine with the 5 man squads and the same can be achieved with a damage reduction without messing with the other components In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer T4 Non-Combat Grenadier Buff Idea19 Feb 2020, 22:04 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2020, 18:37 PMdistrofio I disagree, because it gives gren some utility, when escorting HMGs they can provide some heal to it, useful for holding the line. I disagree aswell on making heal free. Its not something you simply abuse. Veteran squad gives it for free because it is a payed upgrade that locks out the LMG42 (its iconic upgrade) If grens should be buff anyway it should focus on their midgame potential, since they are not lategame oriented nor early game powerhouse. I agree as well about the med kit. Ost is a combined arms faction, their infantry being able to to keep their other units at full health is on point with faction design and something i would sorely miss is removed. Om the topic, i think the 20% damage reduction for grens should be a t4 perk not an earned trait via vet. Ilocked behind vet it means if you lose a vetted squad late game you are much further back and much more likley to love the squad again. If its to be a late game buff it should be attatched to a late game tier. In: COH2 Balance