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Thread: A redesign of Sherman27 Feb 2020, 11:10 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 10:38 AMEsxile Where did I say it is a problem? You've the option between 2 tanks, one is AI the other is AT and both are going to be countered by the same opposing tank. Which one do you build? This question is not a trap and you can answer the Ez8 if you want but that's on you, people who play USF more frequently see a better ROI building the AI one, you can't simply deny it. First flaw of you argument is that you describe M4A3 as AI and the Easy8 as AT when both are main battle tank and can fill all roles. M4A3 can simply become exceptional AI using HE while Easy8 has great penetration. Deny what? That is exactly what I am pointing out. As long M36 can obliterate PzIV from range 60 going M4A3+M36 will be a better option that using other Sherman versions. The reason Easy8 is not used is that M4A3+M36 combo is more cost efficient than 2 Easy8s and available as stock. In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman27 Feb 2020, 11:06 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 10:15 AMSuperHansFan 45 range and you might as well delete the Jackson out the game It needs a slight mobility nerf to be put down to par with Firefly and SU85 and that's it. Nerf Sherman pen and axis would build nothing but P4 You missed the suggestion. The suggestions is the opposite to buff the penetration of the stock Sherman and make a better vs PzIV and to remove the extra utility of HE rounds. In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman27 Feb 2020, 09:45 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 09:25 AMEsxile Because they are great on paper only. Ez8 is a great tank on paper but completely shut down by Panther and Jpz4 for OKW and panther for Ostheer. ... As some people say TDs (and actually very expensive TDs) doing their Job now how is that a problem? In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman27 Feb 2020, 09:02 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 06:08 AMSuperHansFan The 76 got a really cool redesign with the HVAP trade off, same with dozer blades and you want to throw all those hours of mod team work out the window. All the Sherman variant are great, yet many of them see little action simply because the M4A3/M36 combo is too cost efficient. I do not want to trow anything out the window, I simply want to improve the game. The proposed change aim at two things: One is to create room for different versions of Sherman but removing the HE round from a stock unit and move that utility to doctrinal units as it should be. Two to create the opportunity to nerf the M36 by making the stock Sherman better vs T3 units and opening the way for the M36 to oriented vs T4 units and super heavies. Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 06:08 AMSuperHansFan Vipper maybe you should make your own mod with all these extensive redesigns to royal engineers, gammon bombs and removing abilities from Shermans. It will be very popular I can assure you Maybe you should focus on what you do and not in what I do. Maybe thenyou can make your own mode. In: Lobby
Thread: Winter balance (1/2020) feedback - UKF27 Feb 2020, 08:57 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 08:46 AMSupremeStefan yep but without mine sweeper The unit is more than fine it a support units not a combat unit In: Lobby
Thread: To the patch team27 Feb 2020, 08:03 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 02:58 AMSuperHansFan Sections are not really "buffed" they are still nerfed from their old RA and damage profile. Just because they got given a minor 5 percent RA buff that nerfs them slightly less that's not a buff, they are still weaker. Lee Enfield moving accuracy from 0.35 to 0.5... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter balance (1/2020) feedback - UKF27 Feb 2020, 08:02 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2020, 07:58 AMSupremeStefan This unit should be reworked that's for sure. 5man cp0 with some unique ability should be enough You mean like smoke grenades, salvage and faster repair speed? In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman27 Feb 2020, 00:19 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:40 PMMazianni How do you go from implying USF has tons of AT options for dealing with the Panzer IV to there only being the M36? A M4A3 with support from ATGs or bazookas can deal with a Panzer IV adequately enough, and as it is the close range penetration of the M4A3 is fine versus the Ostheer Panzer IV (fun fact, the M4A3 AP shots have more close range penetration than the 76mm AP profile proposed here) With veterancy things become more difficult, sure, but overall IMO the Panzer IV is not so much a reason for the M36 to be so powerful as is the Panther, which the M4A3 is hopelessly inadequate against. In other word the M36 can be toned vs PzIV and it will not cause any problems. I can not disagree with that but others do. (Fun fact most tank battle do not take place in range 0 and the suggestions it to increase far penetration by 20%...) Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:40 PMMazianni Ironically this proposal doesn't actually meet this requirement anyway as this new 76mm Sherman would do terribly versus the OKW Panzer IV or vet 2 Ostheer Panzer IV. The only major change is that in this world the USF roster has lost a major AI tool and generalist in the M4A3. And open the way for specialized units like the 105mm which is completely overshadowed by M4A3 Sherman Dozer. As I have explained the M4A3 is currently imo an excellent Tank that make the other versions of the Sherman less attractive. The proposed redesign make room for each versions of the Sherman to bring something different to the table. But the questions remains what in your opinion would be good stat for Sherman to used vs mediums? In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman26 Feb 2020, 23:34 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:31 PMMazianni Great let me here you description of Sherman that would be enough to deal with PzIV and allow the M36 to nerfed. In: Lobby
Thread: A redesign of Sherman26 Feb 2020, 23:18 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni People don't complain about the 76mm AI because it isn't purchased to fight infantry. It already fills the role you describe here, right now, with this very proposal aiming to nerf that attribute AND remove generalist/AI options from the stock USF roster. The easy 8, you also pointed out, is to remain doctrinal, so are you just suggesting USF only use one or two doctrines vs OKW? No I am suggesting of lowering the power level since it will also become cheaper. Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni Except 1. You offer to rework the M36 into an anti-heavy TD here. and 2. The M36 will still, if an anti-heavy TD, penetrate the vetted P4 100%. And the suggestion is to reduce it accuracy/ROF so it can hit the Super heavies but not the PzIV with 100% at range 60... Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni I was talking about the Sherman, which you say REPEATEDLY in this proposal would be a counter to the Panzer IV. And yes, it would absolutely struggle versus the vet 2 P4 which is comparable to the OKW P4 that you have already established this unit (the reworked 76mm Sherman) would not be able to fight. So a vet 2 PzIV would help ostheer fight back the problem here is what exactly? That USF do not have AT options? Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni It's a WW2 game, so good luck with that. Casually disgregarding historical facts to meet stupid and pointless balance attributes hasn't helped CoH2 any at all. Great like make Ostwind doctrinal because very few where produced and because it will make you happy. Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni ...Do you even know what the 76mm Sherman or Easy 8's AI capabilities are like? Currently the 76mm has arguably worse AI than the E8 by virtue of a smaller AOE, offset by a much higher ROF. This proposal, besides nerfing the 76mm's AT capabilities, would also reduce it's ROF, and made no comment on increasing it's AI abilities, so the 76mm outlined in this proposal would have worse AI and AT than the E8. You also want to remove the Soviet holdover 50 cal upgrade for the more expensive and IIRC inferior USF one which is again a nerf to AI. How many times do ?I have to repeat this. If the 76mm need more AI it can be improved. The Soviet 0.50 is simply broken and it should be removed. Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni Again, people don't complain about the 76mm's AI since they don't really expect it to fight infantry. (The M4A3 is a much better option in this case). The fact it currently shoots ridiculously fast in any case doesn't hurt. Pls stop fixating on the AI of the main gun if that is you problem will make the AI identical to M4A3 will that make you happy? Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni There's even less reason to remove it for either vehicle. Yes there is, it allow different units to bring different things to the table Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni Which brings me back to my first point, which is that nobody will build this unit since an ATG or even a nerfed M36 will be a smarter investment. Not if the M36 becomes less cost efficient vs PzIVs Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 23:03 PMMazianni You have mentioned like a half-dozen times that this unit would counter the Ostheer P4 (at least until vet 2). It would also have the worst AI of any medium tank in game if we implemented it with only the changes you outlined in your original post. So, yeah, unless you buffed the AI (say, to P4 levels?) nobody would build this unit since it'd be neither a generalist nor a counter to, well, anything I guess, since I guess you do not actually expect it to counter the P4 either. what the hell do you expect it to do then? Gimped AI, gimped AT, what do you expect a USF player to buy this unit for? To deploy smoke with it? Kill 222s? Nobody would buy this unit. It's a terrible proposal. I'm sorry. You really started to sound like broken record... Unless you have not read correctly I suggested a price decrease. Since it seem hard for you to understand think of it as adding 10 fuel to the cost M4A3 Sherman and increasing its penetration so that is has the match is more even (and removing the HE rounds). In: Lobby