Profile of general_gawain

'right click' doesn't say that much, but I believe we mean the same thing. Imo the sprint should cancel but they should keep moving at the regular speed (thus moving & shooting).

That is exactly what happens.

Name: "Assault"
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https://www.coh2.org/guides/88945/the-coh2-ability-guide-mark-2-0#2667

The guide is not updated to last patch that does not matter because the moving bonus has not changed.

Fact:
Bonuses for FMR is sprint, for AO a speed bonus and the ability to fire on the move.
In sort the are different.

The ability seems to behave like FMR ingame. I assume that your source is outdated. I like to test it by myself when I see outdated data. Units stop moving faster when getting under fire clearly in current patch. I strongly question what you call a fact here. Are you playing a different game or are you not testing it?

It is unclear to me how you use the term "pure fact" so pls clarify what you mean.

I used the term "pure fact" to get away from your mixing of facts with perspective/assumption that you mark as facts. You just did it again this time with outdated data you can't be sure off. Normally a fact should be a pure fact already. So please put "pure fact" on a level with a "fact" as it should be.

"and the commander is strong"
Commander has KV-1 a very strong Tank
Commander has B-4 which is considered to be op and probably will be changed
Commander has Shock troops one of the strongest Soviet infatry

Pls provide you arguments the commander is weaker than other commanders if you disagree with my claim.

I see what you ar doing here. It is a derail from my original matter about FMR into a wide open discussion about the strength of a commander that leads to nothing. Can you see that too? I won't follow that bait. Lets get back to FMR please.

"and popular. (FACT)"

Counter tactics stat from July 22-28 stats:

1vs1 added in load-out 218 times 7 most popular
2vs2 added in load-out 1132 times 4 most popular
3vs3 added in load-out 761 times 4 most popular
4vs4 added in load-out 3542 times 4 most popular

source:
https://coh2stats.com/stats/week/1616371200/4v4/soviet?statsSource=all

You corrected what I was complaining about. Perfect, nothing more to complain. Yeah, like that it is what I call a fact too.

"The ability is inline if not better than other similar abilities"

Pls provide you arguments the ability is weaker than other abilities of each class if you disagree with my claim.

I feel like explaining this again and again. I'll do once more just for you:

Abilities can be similar or even the same when it comes to effect, timing and cost. That is what you call "inline". Still they can perform way better at some factions than at others becasue factions are asymmetrical. That is what I call unbalanced or not inline in true performance.

If you use such an ability as FMR on an army that has a lot of long ranged infantry for example like Obers with LMG or IS with double Bren the ability is perfect. Why? You can use the sprint to quickly reposition behind the front line and once you get under fire at about 30-40 range you are at your most efficient combat range already when it comes to trading damage effectively. You make full use of sprint and you make full use of the combat boni once you get under fire. Take cover, fire back and profit.

If you use such an ability as FMR on an army which infantry is focused on medium to close combat, you can quickly reposition behind the lines too, but once you get under fire at 30-40 range you are still far away from your most efficient combat range. These units benefit far less.

So you just can't put standardized abilities in each faction if you have asymmetrical faction design. Originally FMR and VA were far more different, because they were made for different factions. FMR gave you a strong timed close assault and a weakening afterwards. That fitted the faction/commander design very well.

FMR should focus on movement for infantry to strengthen the ability to close in. VA and AO should focus more on accuracy/reload/cooldown to give an advantage at dps at long to medium ranges.

I don't. There is opinion and there is fact. For instance you were wrong about other similar abilities not have spring cancel when under fire and that is a fact and not an opinion.

I will explain with your next statement:

That is false.The mechanism is not the same, units move slightly faster and fire on the move, the do not sprint.

The speed boost does not stop if they come under fire.


Then explain specifically which and why.

Your false is incorrect. How funny is that?!?

Please start a game of CoH2, take Commando doctrine and try Assault Operations. Observe that the movement bonus DOES stops under fire. Then come back. You see now? Thats is part of the basic problem about of all your "false" and "incorrect". And this is yet a real fact and no assumption / perspective.

Cover to Cover does not provide any offensive bonus, is an area ability and it does not come with AT satchels.

Rangers don't need 15% accuracy bonus to wipe like crazy at close range and the area ist big enough to use it where you need it. The additional fast smoke of the ability is much better than an offensive bonus (not a fact but my perspective, you see the difference between fact and perspective?). They don't need satchel either because they use sprint to get into range with elite zooks or get a second salvo at retreating vehicles. But in the end they can be stopped for sure like Penal/Shock Troop combo with sprint could be stopped.

The sprint should change to also be cancel when under fire.

And Assgren Sprint too? How useless is sprint when it just takes a single shot to stop it...

This sound like a rant that is false.

If you think it sounds like a rant this is just an interpretation of you that I want to reject.

OKW Unit under valiant assault/for the father land/radio silence ARE impacted since they will also stop when under fire.

Unit with assault operation do not get sprint.

If you not take the time to read all my posts I can't help you, because the things you said here are pretty clear. They are not affected by the same problem because they are far more suited for long range combat.

Assault operation: I talked about a movement bonus multiple times here. Units with Assault Operation get a movement bonus which ends if under fire, just the same mechanic like FMR, VA or Radio silence.

At least three out of four of your "false"/"incorrect" statements happen because you don't take the time to read correctly or make assumptions.

Again incorrect.

Please don't confuse your assumptions / your perspective with facts. Thx.

Maybe it does not fit your "unit composition" of spamming Shock troops and PTRS Penal and expecting to overrun both enemy infatry and vehicles by attacking frontally using FMR but that is actually an improvement in game play because such tactics should not be promoted.

That are your assumptions again. Don't try to interpret how I'm playing. Furhermore that doesn't work with multiple Rangers (Thompsons and elite Zooks plus Cover to Cover) vs a halfway decent opponent, so why should it work with Penals and Shock troops?

"working as intended?"
Yes it is

Just no, because faction design wasn't considered.

And that is simply false both unit benefit from ability and especially Penal.

It is about 20% of the performance of the old FMR for this two units, especially for Shock Troops. Keep saying it again and again, maybe somebody will believe it.

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I made my suggestion multiple times. The ability should focus more on movement instead off combat buffs, since the faction and the commander especially is more focused on close quarte fights. I don't want to repeat it again. It was turned from a very strong ability for the core infantry units of this commander into an ability that hardly supports this units at all. Old FMR was a little bit too strong but the design fitted the commander better than the patched FMR.