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Most of your concerns got covered already (range increase/time to disable ability etc.), but there are two aspects left:

But in real life games this is almost never happening since soviets have those "balanced" satchels so going close to the SU85 is guaranteed p4 death.

1) Satchels: Of course they are strong and they will criple your tank seriously, but they are very short ranged and Penals have no sprint ability. If you see them you can cancel your attack in time. And its the same vice versa. If you flank a Stug with a T34 for example you always have to count in that there are Shreks, a PAK or/and Grens with snare nearby. Flanking is always risk versus reward. But of course you have supporting units too, which can support your attack.

Even without the satchels, just a regular AT nade will stop the p4 giving time to the SU85 to rotate.

2) Conscript AT-Grenade: AT snares don't damage the motor of full health medium or heavy tanks anymore, luckily that was changed a while ago. So AT-Grenade is completely harmless unless you don't get hit by the SU-85, a nearby ZIS or another tank first.

- Remove super heavies and Panthers.
- Remove StuG, AT, and Tank Destroyers.
- Make all mediums have same stats and cost the same.

Game fixed!

Yeah, that would be working actually XD


I do think it just needs a bigger time gap between Mediums on one side and Heavies + T4 TDs on the other side to justify building the Mediums. Especially in those team games. Just a quick thought: You could lock Firefly behind Hammer/Anvil upgrade for example and invent an "end tech" in T4 buildings for all factions to set T4 TDs and alike further apart from Mediums.


Another solution would be a slightly higher population for Heavies, Super Heavies & T4 TD's, so that there is a further reason to field meds later on with support of Heavies, Super Heavies & T4 TD's.

Taking Ostheer/USF as an example:
Atm PanzerIV has 12 to Jackson 16
Atm Sherman has 12 to Panther 18

As long as you get 1,5 Shermans for a Panther (3 Shermans vs 2 Panthers) or 1,33 PanzerIVs for a Jackson (4 PanzerIVs vs 3 Jacksons), there isn't much of a reason to field the Mediums in lategame.


Edit: And when we are already at it -> Howitzer artillery emplacements could use a slightly higher population too, to prevent turning teamgames into arti spamfest (+Priest and Sexton of course) AND all bunkers with MG upgrade need a population of 2.

Thx for your enormous work here!

I'm surprised how even it is in the end overall. It something about 1 to 3 games won or lost more out of 100 across all five factions that makes the difference. Thats quite a small proportion for asymmetrical faction design. Looking at all the op/up forum posts and biased trolls you get the impression it has to be far worse. But it simply isn't. In fact it was far worse in the months after the release of OKW/USF and then later on Brits.

Good work of getting this game more balanced.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, Super Heavy TDs are completely broken in teamgames.

+1

I do think if there wouldn't be the Super Heavy TDs and Panther spam would be toned down a little bit in teamgames to not absolutely dominate mediums in a combination of armor+health and speed (and Panzer Tactican), than Jackson could instantly be nerfed to SU-85 level.

Edit: Would be good if the heavy generalist would be toned down a little bit versus AT-Guns, that would be another key aspect to have less dependence on allied TDs. I would love to see more medium tank action even in teamgames.

Why would you change the Tiger? Everyone agrees it's the most balanced Heavy Tank atm.

Also it's extremely disingenuous to say Tank Destroyers are oppressive. The SU-85 and Firefly are powerful but also have drawbacks, so there is balance. The exception and main source of frustration is the Jackson.

The exception and main source of frustration for allied side is Jagdtiger/Elephant at a couple of 4vs4 maps at least ;-)