Profile of Grumpy

I subscribe to the belief that CoH2 should take inspiration from how things work in real life, and use this to influence balance, but not dictate it outright. It also should not totally contrast real life. Or maybe you'd like Lee Enfields to penetrate a Tiger; reductio ad absurdium etc. This is the problem I see with IS2 having a ton of range.

Anyhow if you re-read my final PG it does pertain to balance and offers my suggestion for both King and IS2.

Sorry, but too much of the game is very different than real life, and it would be extremely difficult to rebalance at this point. For example:

The Pack howie, M8 Scott, and SU-76 had operational firing ranges that were about 70-80& of a LEFH. Would you really want their barrage to have 120 range? Their shells only hit about 1/4 as hard so either their damage would go down or the LEFH would go up. Then would would you do to the ML20?

Open top TD's like the M10 and M36 were highly vulnerable to infantry small arms, grenades, and mortars. Would you want to have to return to base every time a mortar hit your M36 and pick up a new captain, gunner, and loader? I bet the real-life M10 never crushed a single Wehr soldier.

Hull-down was used for tanks only, and wouldn't have increased range, it would have simply decreased target size and anything mounted in the hull wouldn't be able to shoot. It basically turned a tank into a pillbox.

The game is fun as-is. If you want something that is more like a simulation then try Steel Division, which is a lot more accurate but not as much fun.

I haven't tried the new KT yet so don't really have an opinion. I watched replays of a couple of games that I was in where people were complaining about 2-hit wipes by KT's. Nothing really seemed that bad when I watched the replays. Other vehicles like the ISU are also pretty good at getting 2-hit wipes.

this is why we should make more hard rules about posting in balance section, at least post stats/replay or test or math to back up ur argument or even i can say "up is down"

90% of the time hte thread start like this "ahahha i can't play this game anymore X unit is OPOPOPOPie whyyyyyyyyy" now change OP for UP if u want to buff something

I agree, except that I think it should be a replay. Also, if the unit is that OP, the the person who starts the thread should have to use the actual unit in a game against equally skilled opponents and then post the replay. It would prevent most BS threads.

Comp stomps wouldn't count. For example, I've used the JT HE barrage in a comp stomp and got over a hundred kills. Against real players I've never got more than about 1/3 of that and sometimes it doesn't work well at all (like trees blocking the shells when the trees don't block normal shells).

BTW, all that changed on the maxim was a couple of suppression values. It still doesn't suppress very well and I'd still rate it as the worst MG.

Cheers to the mod team and Relic. As I have said before, reading thru 1000's of posts is a lot of work. On top of all of the real work that had to be done. That is a huge sacrifice for the community!

Does anyone have a count on the number of posts about balance since this started?

There's only been a couple of new threads. Most of the posts about balance are continuations of previous threads with the usual suspects Ullumulu/Vipper/Stug/Blackstorm/Distro/Shadowlink versus pvtgooner/Kaitoff/and a couple others

It doesn't feel like the patch changed balance much, other than eliminating some cheese and toning down some of the abusive units.

Take it from a 4v4 scrub like myself.

Regardless of performance the main offenders for AT inf blobbing are the OST. No idea why but there is a plague of players who spam them.

Doesn't bother me though as I play mostly ussr as allies so they're a simple katyusha barrage to make run back to base or drop if you get a few good wipes in.

With the UKF/USF who lack nondoc rocket arty they can be a greater pain to deal with.

The REAL villain in this situation isn't the blob it's usually the awful pathing of the vehicle trying to escape it/stay out of range.

They're hard to wipe. Three squads will insta-wipe standard Allied tanks. They have a great grenade and can sometimes for the retreat of AI infantry. Maxims don't slow them down enough if you play Soviet. Your only counter is to get a Katy and hope you get a good strike in quickly. Even KV-8's aren't good against them if there are enough squads.

To clarify, it's not a timed ability, it fires a set number of shots every time assuming you do not give it another command mid barrage. 3 at vet 0, 5 at vet 1. The main issue with it is its inconsistency finding the target. If it's a totally open firing lane with not even a hint of debris/shot blockers it can be good, otherwise a lot of the shots collide with objects/terrain early and do nothing.

Doesn't matter though, they're not going to change it now so no point discussing its merits. It is what it is.

I retarget sometimes during the barrage. The icon has a timer and the JT use HE for the duration of the timer but in watching a replay, it was always 3 shots at Vet 0 so the "timer" was just a visual indicator that it is shooting HE. There are only a few maps that I use it on, and they're mostly flat so I hadn't noticed the terrain much.