Profile of Rocket

lol, he still thinks Tigers are OP. Rifleman wipe the floor with late game Axis infantry. You have to keep them alive and get them vet 3. Paratroops at Vet 3 with LMG murder all Axis infantry regardless of Vet. Maybe you should try using them. Hell even Vet 3 Rifles with BARS are equal vs Vet 3 Grens with LMG.

If you cant win with USF infantry late game, then unfortunately that is a L2P issue. If you can't combine to use your superior infantry and Jacksons with P47 to win late game as USF then unfortunately that is L2P as well.

And don't even talk to me about the Soviet late game, it's very very good and if you can't win with that either it is also L2P.

Lmao riflemen come no where close to wiping the floor against axis infantry especially late game. Even ostrupen in cover can beat rifles now. All axis infantry scales much better as the game goes on. Gren/pgren blobs can beat about all infantry by them selves and do a shit ton of dmg with mg42s. The simple fact is that wher and okw both need not to even make anything other than gren/pgren or volk blobs to survive until late game so in general they just have more mobile infantry period because they do not have to use combined arms. Allies always have to use little niches and a wide range of utility units to even have a chance at late game.

To the OP if your getting beat by script spam then you got some serious issues.

Allied infantry is not superior everyone knows that like 15 minutes can save you money on car insurance with Geico. Also p47s suck get shot down by okw buildings and they don't do that much dmg most the rockets always miss. Stuka cas with the tiger commander is broken as hell it one shots all allied armor and tracks its target and never misses only the 152 and IS2 survive.

Soviet late game is pretty equal to axis now in 1v1 and 2v2, but still gets beat in 3v3 an 4v4 especially if they have USF team mates.

SU has to many "insta-wipe free abilities"

A tank with a damaged engine won't blitz anywhere.

"Attack ground" is a valid counter against smoke

even if your riflemen has already started the process to fire a rifle nade (takes like 3-5 seconds and that only has a decent chance at actually engine dmging a pz4) the smoke immediately stops it from firing, which is also broken. So the second they hear riflenade they have like 3 seconds to smoke and it instantly stops the riflenade from going off.

attack ground is only viable pretty much if you have the tank that smoked pinned with another vehicle or else it will just reverse and like mentioned before won't be caught as well as shermans will immediately start turning to other targets which just makes them take even longer to attack ground and jackson will usually always miss if you guess about where they have started reversing.

Just like the P47 from Airborne doc. (wich is imo great for that map). Move out of the area OR get Anti air unit.

And lol wtf the chat.....

P47 is not the same it does not one shot axis tanks and you know that. It takes a lot of p47 call ins to do that or some very very lucky ones. Often times you do not have time to get out of the area it is pretty hard to dodge.

The thing that can make CAS dominate, is the spam of inf with plenty of munis for upgrades, topped off with air support that really allows you to dominate (aka cheese), but it is possible for a good enemy to pick you to pieces with armour, so long as they keep your army in check and its not allowed to snow ball.

If you DO decide to teck to P4 with CAS, you are instantly hurting the amount of infatry AND planes you field, because tecking costs plenty of MANPOWER and fuel.. so CAS then becomes more rounded, but not as powerful.

Its powerful for the same reason Mech Assault and Stug Es are powerful, it is one of few Werh doctrines that has some impact without investing teck heavily in manpower, allowing you to field a decent sized infatry force.

How are you going to pick them apart with armor when cas can one shot multiple e8s and anything USF has armor wise in one click of a button. Watch my replay.

http://www.coh2.org/replay/35420/bullshit-cas

I out played this guy and killed multiple tigers with out losing any e8s, then because of CAS I cannot even repair them in my own base. I out played him armor wise. If the e8s would of been able to survive then the attrition of wiping his inf would of started, but no thanks to click of a button he just erases my armor from the game. I keep making more e8s and taking out tigers and he just calls in cas and erases all surviving e8s with one click easy.

After latest patch, when OKW was nerfed, the cheesee tactics remain the only ones viable, if you want to win, of course. Anything else you do, you are next to dead. So now, these cheesee tactics are not only easier, but necessary, and they are still failing in almost 50% of cases.

Cheese tactics as in spamming volks w/shreks and obers? I see okw using a lot more rakentenwerfer as it is much better now and effective and iegs and combined arms in general. As well as the p4 commander. I attribute this to the nerf as before it was only volks w/shreks and ober blobs because it was easy and takes little micro but does not work every time now at least. Although when you can have an AT all at an cheap infantry level okw will never stop spamming volks into every strategy. Once again the problem is volks w/shreks. I am all for giving okw a medium tank especially if that delays them from making a JT and the shrek taken away from volks.

Panthers are always effective and much better in pairs and way better then KT. Best front armor better speed going backwards then any allied tank don't understand how you even lose one if I can keep my slow ass shermans alive.

Also this thread was about whermacht "get out of jail abilities" not okw derail johnny.