Profile of ElSlayer

modern war!!! I want to flashbang and squadwipe units in buildings with my doctrinal elite delta force squad, hunt down snipers as the Muhajadeen faction, with a Technical w/ 50 cal on top, have loitering attack helicopter callin's, Blackhawk helicopters rapelling callin squads into battle, while the side miniguns are providing cover fire, BMP/Bradly APC's running down lone squads wiping them garrisoned with squads firing out the sides and shit, navy seal squads swimming behind enemy lines(btw, need new swim mechanic Kregasm) 50 cal sniper Kreygasm



Also....JETS. A-10 thunderbolt run callin wiping squads in one burst


COH3 Modern Warfare. Do the right thing relic.

AC-130 Hercules loiter suppressing everything, stunning tanks, damaging engines and wiping both infantry and vehicles. Now that's THE CANCER!

Next up was Obersoldaten. In an equal 4v4 fight, the Obersoldaten won almost every time. However, Obersoldaten require a vulnerable base structure that costs 120 fuel and 200 MP where the Penals need only a cheap structure that costs 160 MP and 10 fuel.

Putting up your tier stucture up close to frontline is not a problem of Obers nor Penals. SU player puts it in his base sector.

Let's me put it this way - isn't SU T1 is more vulnerable than OKW T4?

Additionally, the Obers themselves cost 400 MP, to the Penals' 300 MP. Thus, you can get 4 Penal squads for the cost of 3 Ober squads, and in that situation the Penals won every time.

Penal start is very slow. You should use that to your advantage and take superior map presence and field luchs fast.

Just think about it this way - how many combat squads OKW will have by the time when, say, second Penal comes out, given that SU player went T1->Penal->Penal? Something like CE + Penal + Penal against SP + Volk/Kubel + Volk + Volk.

Which side will have map advantage? Who will field light tank faster in that situation? What can Soviet T1 start to do against light tank, except trading AI for AT by upg. PTRS?

The most obvious counter, MGs... Well, you only need one Penal squad to flank, and suddenly you've lost your MG (and any nearby squads) to a 45-muni satchel. The satchel has a 4 second fuse, and it takes 3.5 seconds to pack up an MG-42 or MG-34. Eek. Not to mention that the MG-34 is a pile of fertiliser and leaves the OKW without a real MG.

Again, you let your MG to flank, which probably means that you've left your 260 (or 210) unit alone (provided no scouting/screening) against, as you say in your scenario - 600 MP army.

IMO the examples you provide either out of real combat situation as well as your "Penal Problem" is not a balance, but a skill issue. Your personal skill issue.

Obers being not good (mostly timing problem) are not Penal issue. Crap MG-34 neither.

Come on, dude. Failed to dodge satchel with your MG then came to forums? How about to pack up and run 2 secs earlier if you found yourself in such situation?

Clerv, where did you got that 10% number?

Also, I think it is wrong to use terms "allied/axis player" because IMO most of us play both side time to time.

Tip: Stop playing 3v3/4v4 random.

Team up as allies with your friends ("arranged team"), or switch to 2v2 random

Problem: want to do X but can't succeed.
Solution: don't do X.

Yeah. Great advice.

i think its the German units and tanks are just alot more cooler then the allied units. its not just coh2 thats like this all other ww2 games i played people always tend to prefer the axis then the allies

Yeah. The "cool uniforms" argument.

I think ya'll need to be very clear with what is happening with this mod, Relic, and future patches.

Ya'll have enjoyed an incredible privilege with the state of this game. If ya'll are intending to use this as a platform for making a patch, that should probably be made clear.

I say this because that whole 'scrambling and debating to figure out what changes should be placed' is the component where the community is involved.

I have no problem with building interesting mods and testing what can be done with this game. But if you're using this so that you have a polished product to give Relic when and/or if they decide to let another patch happen, then it sounds like you won't have much need to interact with the community at that point. You'll already have something YOU are happy with, and I'm afraid that is all that will matter.

What a long way to say "I dun liek ur mod"