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Just said the p4 is OK as you mentioned it doesn't shine in anything. If I want AI I'll buy a ostwind and if I want AT I'll take a stug. See the difference between the T34-76 and T34-85 and even with the SU-85. The 85 has a specific place in Soviet roaster which is failing for the p4.
p4 is OK for its price, but far for "really really good."
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No, they're not bad. I'm perhaps being unduly harsh on Rifle Company.
But look at the competition. Revamped Armor Company. Heavy Cavalry Company. Mechanized Everything Company.
USF's commanders could really do with an ability reshuffle.
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Did I really want the E8 to defeat the Panther? Where did I say that? I said that it does not have a “superior gun”, and that E8 needs more penetration. Even if the E8 has a penetration, like Jackson, it will not defeat the Panther. Because the Panther has more armor and health. And this is logical. After all, the E8 is a doctrinal tank, it can have a little better gun.
2. But you did not mention the opposition of these tanks.
E8 vs Panzer 4, Panther, King Tiger. (Doctrine: Tiger, Tiger Ace, JagdTiger, Ferdinand)
Panzer 4 vs sherman 75mm and Jackson (Doctrine: Sherman 76 mm and Pershing)
We see that for E8 the opposition is much stronger. Even if the OKW does not choose a doctrine, it has a panther and KT.
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The E8 discussion began with one of your friends saying, “E8 has a superior AT gun.” This is the funniest thing I've heard. Superior gun - which cannot normally penetrate the panther, especially when there is a vet 1.
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i love riely, usf has to fight both OKW and OST , while OST has only to fight USF, like UKF and SU don't exist
as always the poor USF all alone
btw i see u back paddled on ur argument that ost doctrinal tank should be worse than usf doctrinal tank
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If I play 1x1, what's the point of discussing other allied factions? After all, we are talking about changing exactly E8, and do not touch the balance between OKW / Oster and the British / Soviet. Only USF. And we do not say that they are poor, just a Sherman 76 mm is not worthy to be in a mechanized company, and the E8 could get a little more penetration.
But if we are talking about the 2x2 mode, then everyone already knows this, the USF is the worst fraction, which is confirmed by the terrible results in tournaments.
cognitive dissonance is a hell of drug
1. lol. Do you compare E8 with panzer 4? Doctrine tanks? are you serious?
2. But you did not mention the opposition of these tanks.
E8 vs Panzer 4, Panther, King Tiger. (Doctrine: Tiger, Tiger Ace, JagdTiger, Ferdinand)
Panzer 4 vs sherman 75mm and Jackson (Doctrine: Sherman 76 mm and Pershing)
We see that for E8 the opposition is much stronger. Even if the OKW does not choose a doctrine, it has a panther and KT.
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cognitive dissonance is a hell of drug
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a weak mind is a more destructive drug.
USF vs OKW/OST in 1vs1.
What problems? And where does the other allied fractions? If we are talking about 1x1, and do not make changes in OKW and Oster. Can't you think before you write?
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Didn't Raketen has the exactly penetration as Zis?
M1 57mm has horrible penetration.
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The E8 discussion began with one of your friends saying, “E8 has a superior AT gun.” This is the funniest thing I've heard. Superior gun - which cannot normally penetrate the panther, especially when there is a vet 1.
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Lord knows pressing the stop button is hard. 6 second freeze of switching rounds or the entire vehicle stopping to pop a delayed smoke has got nothing on the amount of timing and technical skill required to use Blitz or Panzer Tactician lmao
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That’s why I said compared to other tanks, the extra ability u listed are extra , those do require extra micro but are not needed to make them equal to other
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