OKW - Booby Trap
9 Dec 2018, 23:02 PM
#1
Posts: 369
The booby trap ability available to Jaeger Light Infantry and Obersoldaten is overpriced for its effect. Killing 2 models is not worth 50 muni, price needs to be lowered or performance increased.
9 Dec 2018, 23:28 PM
#2
Posts: 17883 | Subs: 8
Read patch notes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Dec 2018, 00:39 AM
#3
Posts: 207
Read patch notes.
Actually give information or advice, instead of being condescending.
10 Dec 2018, 01:17 AM
#4
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Posts: 2885
Actually give information or advice, instead of being condescending.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Asking somebody to search for information can be a very good lesson.
10 Dec 2018, 02:30 AM
#5
Posts: 207
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Asking somebody to search for information can be a very good lesson.
I understand the sentiment, but forums are meant for discussion, and maybe he wants another opinion aside from the one in the patch notes. Also like I said, my problem was mainly with how condescending he was being.
10 Dec 2018, 06:00 AM
#6
Posts: 911
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Asking somebody to search for information can be a very good lesson.
Teach is the operative term
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10 Dec 2018, 08:46 AM
#7
Posts: 3166 | Subs: 6
From commander revamp patch notes:
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245307/commander-revamp-preview-changelog#latest
Jeager Light Infantry
[…]
-Booby traps standardized to the new Soviet version (-Cost reduced from 100 to 45, Damage from 250 to 80, AOE distance from 1.5/3/4.5 to 0.25/3/6) This also applies to Obersoldaten and Stormtroopers
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245307/commander-revamp-preview-changelog#latest
11 Dec 2018, 01:43 AM
#8
Posts: 369
From commander revamp patch notes:
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245307/commander-revamp-preview-changelog#latest
Thank you.
If I'm reading this correctly, they're dropping from 50 -> 45 for okw, for a significantly worse performance?
Already it only kills 1-2 models.
Better not use this ability anymore.
11 Dec 2018, 03:26 AM
#9
Posts: 573
Thank you.
If I'm reading this correctly, they're dropping from 50 -> 45 for okw, for a significantly worse performance?
Already it only kills 1-2 models.
Better not use this ability anymore.
What if I told you that said booby trap is a new doctrinal ability for Sov and only usable by engineers who already have mines (which are cheaper and deal more casualties) and actual demos?
That feel when overnerfing Sov doctrinal stuff now backfires onto Axis
11 Dec 2018, 03:44 AM
#10
Posts: 5279
What if I told you that said booby trap is a new doctrinal ability for Sov and only usable by engineers who already have mines (which are cheaper and deal more casualties) and actual demos?
That feel when overnerfing Sov doctrinal stuff now backfires onto Axis
To be fair booby trap should have always been on engies and not a global but anyways...
#stalinwept
11 Dec 2018, 03:50 AM
#11
Posts: 369
What if I told you that said booby trap is a new doctrinal ability for Sov and only usable by engineers who already have mines (which are cheaper and deal more casualties) and actual demos?
That feel when overnerfing Sov doctrinal stuff now backfires onto Axis
Thats not really the same though is it?
An ober squad walking over a mine/boobytrap is much worse than conscripts/penals/guards/shocks. Lower model count.
But I'm glad soviets get it too, it just needs to be effective for both factions, not ineffective for both. Why give an ability that wont get used by either faction its available to?
11 Dec 2018, 08:03 AM
#12
Posts: 3166 | Subs: 6
If I'm reading this correctly, they're dropping from 50 -> 45 for okw, for a significantly worse performance?
Already it only kills 1-2 models.
Better not use this ability anymore.
Not really worse. Instead of killing 2 models and doing nothing to the other 2-4, the damage is now spread out and will put the entire squad on low health. It'll probably kill the 1-2 models that trigger the trap. The low health squad will be easy to push off afterwards.
11 Dec 2018, 08:34 AM
#13
Posts: 369
Not really worse. Instead of killing 2 models and doing nothing to the other 2-4, the damage is now spread out and will put the entire squad on low health. It'll probably kill the 1-2 models that trigger the trap. The low health squad will be easy to push off afterwards.
Ah cool, Thanks for clarifying, I don't really understand how the stats work yet, so really helpful.
Cheers mate.
11 Dec 2018, 09:32 AM
#14
Posts: 13476 | Subs: 1
Imo Booby trap damage should be changed to DOT.
11 Dec 2018, 11:27 AM
#15
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Does it still not trigger when a friendly unit is inside ? Best use of booby traps.
-Wait for unit to get inside circle cap.
-Abandon circle
-????
-Profit.
-Wait for unit to get inside circle cap.
-Abandon circle
-????
-Profit.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Dec 2018, 12:18 PM
#16
Posts: 3166 | Subs: 6
Does it still not trigger when a friendly unit is inside ? Best use of booby traps.
Yes, but the new booby trap AOE profile mainly does health damage so it's not really an issue. The only way this would lead to a wipe is when the enemy squad is left at very low hp/models before the friendly squad retreats, but then it's not very different from losing the last two models of a squad by hitting a mine.
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