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4 Jul 2018, 09:23 AM
#41
avatar of Stark

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Nope, the P4 you talk about is what OKW got in schwerer now.

You're probably thinking CoH1 PE P4 here, which ToW one is(minus ability).


Yeah ok you have right. It calls Panzer IVD from what i recall. But how is this tank diffrent than ostheer command p4 (minus aura)?
4 Jul 2018, 09:27 AM
#42
4 Jul 2018, 09:39 AM
#43
avatar of Sander93

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For OKW I'd propose a tank destroyer commander, with Hetzers, maybe Pak 40, (double) Panzershreck infantry, access to teller mines and maybe some abilities like Stuka AT support, HEAT shells and passive vehicle detection based on the CoH1 PE doctrine. IMO OKW's lack of non-vehicle AT (Rakettens lategame just die too easily) is one of the faction's biggest weaknesses once the Su85 and Jackson hordes start rolling around.

OKW could also use good/better offmap artillery in some commanders. Breakthrough Doctrine's 'Assault Artillery' would be much more useful if it was a concentrated barrage instead of random deviated shells landing in an entire sector.


So is there going to be a discussions/proposals thread where people can submit their ideas in detail?
4 Jul 2018, 09:42 AM
#44
avatar of adamírcz

Posts: 955

This is not my idea, but its almost as good as if it was mine:
A nice commander ability would be to call in an other factions mainline infantry unit, so for example US could have a commander who calls in grens in US uniforms with springfields, but exact same stats and so on...
Technically it could be seen as a sign of symmetrical balancing, but... it really isnt
4 Jul 2018, 09:48 AM
#45
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Fake in the past, but possible today :P


4 Jul 2018, 10:36 AM
#46
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I was very disappointed by the absence of Soviet paratroopers in the game. From 1941 to 1943, the USSR conducted about 30 tactical paratroop operations (not counting the hundreds can thousands of diversionary parachuting operations). More than 20 tactical parachute operations in the Soviet-Japanese War (about 17 000 paratroopers participated in the operation). But they are not in the game. But on the other hand, the other factions have paratroopers.
4 Jul 2018, 17:14 PM
#47
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Posts: 318

http://dreadmode.willherzog.net/
Just leaving this here...

Also give the Paratroopers the Recoiless Rifles :-D
4 Jul 2018, 17:16 PM
#48
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http://dreadmode.willherzog.net/
Just leaving this here...

Also give the Paratroopers the Recoiless Rifles :-D



OWWWWWWW


Great tool. Thanks
4 Jul 2018, 18:13 PM
#49
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Posts: 464

amazing wonder whats new
4 Jul 2018, 18:43 PM
#50
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4 Jul 2018, 19:01 PM
#51
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For Ost, it would be nice if Relic changed one of the commanders so that it could call in or build a JP4 (borrowed from Okw but with just 3 levels of vet). Going Elefant commander on maps like Steppes or Red Ball every time is getting really stale.
4 Jul 2018, 19:31 PM
#52
avatar of Fluffi

Posts: 211

I think it is a shame how Relic made unique models and voice lines for some doctrinal units, yet they only appear in 1 or 2 doctrines, when there is 7 doctrines or more per faction. In CoH 1, when a unit was in 1 out of 3 doctrines, it would still be seen frequently. But in CoH 2 it feels like some could be lost in the tide of doctrines.

This is why I would like to see such seldom units included in the new doctrines.

Examples of such units:
- Panzerfusiliers
- US Paratroopers
- Sturm Officer
- Osttruppen (direct call in)
- Assault Engineers

(check this for reference, link originally posted by "Spielführer", see post #47)
4 Jul 2018, 21:14 PM
#53
avatar of Spielführer

Posts: 318

I just would like to see the old ones optimized. Also some units maybe tweaked than.

US Paratroopers? Recoiless Rifles like in CoH1
SdKfz 250 with more armor (resistent to small arms fire and maybe MG42 facing front)
normal Leutnant Gottlieb from CoH1 :)

9 Jul 2018, 09:33 AM
#54
avatar of Qvazar

Posts: 881

Panzer Elite, OKW commander
SdKfz 250/10 Light AT Halftrack (Stuns vehicles. Is this in the game files somewhere?)
Hull Down
SdKfz 250/3 or SdKfz 223, Funkwagen (steal resources from enemy points, reveal troop movement)
P4 Infantry Support Tank (P4 Command Tank)
Jagdpanther
9 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM
#55
avatar of ullumulu

Posts: 2243

noone need a hetzer, stugs are better.

Ost need a faster jagdtank with more range... like the jagdpanther.
9 Jul 2018, 10:51 AM
#56
avatar of Katitof

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Why you people keep discussing new units, when you know full well that we can only use what is in game and no new unit will be implemented?
9 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
#57
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Posts: 571

Why you people keep discussing new units, when you know full well that we can only use what is in game and no new unit will be implemented?


People can dream.

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9 Jul 2018, 11:47 AM
#58
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Why you people keep discussing new units, when you know full well that we can only use what is in game and no new unit will be implemented?


I ask me that everyday I see this here :P
9 Jul 2018, 11:49 AM
#59
avatar of Spielführer

Posts: 318

Is it at least possible to have modified units like SdKfz250 finally receiving the MG42 facing front?
9 Jul 2018, 12:03 PM
#60
avatar of Katitof

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Is it at least possible to have modified units like SdKfz250 finally receiving the MG42 facing front?

That still requires new model and new animations.

Its a little more complicated then LEGO you know.
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