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19 Sep 2015, 01:38 AM
#21
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Is the wehr sniper camo change intended?


probably?
19 Sep 2015, 01:40 AM
#22
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Oh mighty Cruzz, has the Ostheer mortar RoF nerf affected the mortar halftrack?
19 Sep 2015, 01:46 AM
#23
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Partisans did nothing wrong.:guyokay:
Can we calculate what their new DPS will be, compared to what it is now, by using the hotfix notes?

And how much better is the Dshk compared to the maxim with the new RoF change?
19 Sep 2015, 02:05 AM
#24
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Partisans did nothing wrong.:guyokay:
Can we calculate what their new DPS will be, compared to what it is now, by using the hotfix notes?

It'd probably be about half, which will be around 10.533 dps for one and 42.132 for the whole squad. For comparison Assault Grenadiers are 10.186 for a man and 50.934 dps for a squad, but they have 5 men instead of 4.

And how much better is the Dshk compared to the maxim with the new RoF change?

24.665 / 17.493 / 6.106 - Maxim
62.134 / 25.237 / 8.291 - DShK
26.817 / 15.584 / 6.022 - M2HB (added because it's also a 50 cal)
19 Sep 2015, 02:59 AM
#25
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24.665 / 17.493 / 6.106 - Maxim
62.134 / 25.237 / 8.291 - DShK
26.817 / 15.584 / 6.022 - M2HB (added because it's also a 50 cal)


Dear God
19 Sep 2015, 05:00 AM
#26
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To elaborate on this, the tank commander you can put on anyone can't call in artillery barrages and only increases sight range by 6.


why don't you let Cruzz handle this gig and stick to your day job?
19 Sep 2015, 05:05 AM
#27
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why don't you let Cruzz handle this gig and stick to your day job?


What's your problem, there's nothing wrong with his statement.
19 Sep 2015, 05:37 AM
#28
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 00:14 AMCabreza


This seems pretty huge as now the soviet sniper is the fastest cloaking sniper in the game. It's going to make the Ost sniper much more vulnerable to counter sniping and being chased down.

Also, nice to know the .50 is as useless as ever.


I came here to say this, it is a needed nerf. But my question is, why the hell don't you mention it in the patch notes? This is one of the most important balance issues versus Brits.
aaa
19 Sep 2015, 05:39 AM
#29
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Cons ppsh. Does it make unit better or worse overall for mid-late?
19 Sep 2015, 06:06 AM
#30
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 05:39 AMaaa
Cons ppsh. Does it make unit better or worse overall for mid-late?


Hard to say, it's better than it was before but without an actual chart it's hard to be sure what the DPS will be like at range. At PPSh mid-range (16m), it does slightly more than a Mosin-Nagant, 4 times higher than pre-patch PPSh. At PPSh long range (30m), it does about a 3rd of the Mosin-Nagant at that range. If i were to guess where the lines crossed, I'd say around the mid-20's area, and that's pretty good for an SMG.
19 Sep 2015, 06:13 AM
#31
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"Vickers HMG vet1 stacking in a new exciting way, get +25% stacking range every time you enter a building."

Yep, not broken at all.





jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2015, 00:52 AMHawking


Seems to me like Relic wants to bring the Vickers back to its glory days of mowing down Jerry from a couple hundred yards in 1916. :foreveralone:


Oh, this just made me lol out loud.


Edit: It looks like Axis players' only chances are to hold out for Panzerwerfer or Sturmtiger against Brit Vickers xD xD xD xD

Here's to the 100% Allies 0% Axis searching status! :clap::hansWUT:
19 Sep 2015, 07:22 AM
#32
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seriously Ostsniper from 2 sec cloack to 6 sec cloak? That means that it's useless again Kappa
19 Sep 2015, 08:30 AM
#33
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What's your problem, there's nothing wrong with his statement.

One correct statement amidst a lot of bullehit. Leave this to people that knows man. It wasn't only aimed at him
20 Sep 2015, 01:34 AM
#34
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"Massive increase in DSHK HMG rate of fire at mid and near"
it's will be fun
is it also for is\isu dshk?
20 Sep 2015, 11:26 AM
#35
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So the DsHk is like...wut???
20 Sep 2015, 11:45 AM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Sep 2015, 01:34 AMGLBZ
"Massive increase in DSHK HMG rate of fire at mid and near"
it's will be fun
is it also for is\isu dshk?


No, it only effects the MG Team DShK.
21 Sep 2015, 18:33 PM
#37
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Sep 2015, 23:32 PMCruzz
Desalinated enough to stop raging about the patch, I guess as I already looked this stuff up on patch day I might as well post it...


Luchs, FlakHT and FlakHQ changed into accuracy based attacks like centaur with less aoe than before. They're all somewhat better against stuff in buildings.
FlakHT is generally better at suppressing but seemed worse at killing. (penetration nerfed from 20/25/30 to 20/20/20)
Luchs around the same against spread out models and worse against clumped up ones. (penetration buffed from 15/20/25 to 25/25/25)
FlakHQ is just insane against infantry again





Can you clarify what this means? How were the flak weapons attacking before if they weren't using accuracy?
21 Sep 2015, 18:48 PM
#38
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 18:33 PMZeaviS


Can you clarify what this means? How were the flak weapons attacking before if they weren't using accuracy?



Before they were attacking like pre patch OKW T4 truck.

Now they attack like pre patch Bofors.
21 Sep 2015, 19:16 PM
#39
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 18:48 PMKatitof



Before they were attacking like pre patch OKW T4 truck.

Now they attack like pre patch Bofors.


Right, but what does that mean? If they weren't attacking using accuracy, then how were they attacking? visually it looks the same to me, but I'm more curious about the under the hood specifics.
21 Sep 2015, 19:46 PM
#40
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 19:16 PMZeaviS


Right, but what does that mean? If they weren't attacking using accuracy, then how were they attacking? visually it looks the same to me, but I'm more curious about the under the hood specifics.

It means they rely on direct hits, like infantry small arms instead of scatter hits, like tank guns.
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