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Shocks and T-70

21 Jul 2021, 12:27 PM
#1
avatar of pvmes

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Are ridiculously op. and ( T-70 not 74 )

I dont count the number of 2v2 games where we just control 80% of the territory from start to mid game and we just crush them without losing anything.

And once Shocks and T-70 are deployed its done. They win.

Its simple, i have my Jaeger vet 3 + 2 Grenadiers vet 2 or 3 all behind green or yellow cover, Shocks troups just go straigh without any tactical movement and just destroy my 3 units without difficulties and they will probably loss 2 or 3 guy in the best situation.

I just played them to try and its ridiculousy overpowered. I can literally play one Shocks troups and survive against 4 units easily.

So am i completely noob on the subject and i should know something ? Or this is fucking unbalanced ?

21 Jul 2021, 12:43 PM
#2
avatar of Mr Carmine

Posts: 1042

Those 4 units are facing the other way and shooting other units? There is no way in hell shocks win vs 4 units wi h focus them unles they are bunched up and eat a shock nade.

And if shocks are op what does that make obers and pgrens?
21 Jul 2021, 12:45 PM
#3
avatar of pvmes

Posts: 2

It will happen again soon so i will record and post it here.
21 Jul 2021, 13:35 PM
#4
avatar of Lady Xenarra

Posts: 679

Where's your PaK gun for dealing with T-70? Or 222 for rolling over Shocks? 222 can also inflict major damage on T-70 as well. Doesn't sound as if they have sweepers(?) - in which case lure the T-70 over a Teller and laugh after they drop.
21 Jul 2021, 14:59 PM
#5
avatar of aerafield

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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jul 2021, 12:27 PMpvmes


So am i completely noob on the subject and i should know something ?



Yes, sorry.
21 Jul 2021, 15:03 PM
#6
avatar of Tetranet

Posts: 175

Shock Troops are the Soviet dirty secret mystery sauce for 45m+ team match wins.
21 Jul 2021, 15:57 PM
#7
avatar of Katukov

Posts: 92

Shock troops are overrated


But Allah wills for the 0.5 sec fuse nades to kill the best
22 Jul 2021, 01:15 AM
#8
avatar of EffenNewbie

Posts: 1856

jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jul 2021, 12:27 PMpvmes
Are ridiculously op. and ( T-70 not 74 )


So am i completely noob on the subject and i should know something ? Or this is fucking unbalanced ?



The win rate this month for Soviets in 1v1's is 49.2% which implies that the overall balance is good. If shocks were great, top 200 players would play them often. Instead, they pick Guard Motor, Lend Lease, and Airborne, none of which have Shocks.

Maybe there is a Wehr unit that can deal with a short range, AI only, squad that can't plant mines and has no snare.
22 Jul 2021, 16:38 PM
#9
avatar of Spoof

Posts: 449

Wait till you find out about Guards.
23 Jul 2021, 06:04 AM
#10
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Instead, they pick Guard Motor, Lend Lease, and Airborne, none of which have Shocks.

Offtopic question, but can you explain why lend lease is popular?

The other two don't surprise me, haven't given lend lease a try in a while
23 Jul 2021, 06:39 AM
#11
avatar of NaOCl

Posts: 369


Offtopic question, but can you explain why lend lease is popular?

The other two don't surprise me, haven't given lend lease a try in a while


zooks on guards, m4c is better t-34/76
23 Jul 2021, 10:19 AM
#12
avatar of Katukov

Posts: 92

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jul 2021, 06:39 AMNaOCl


zooks on guards, m4c is better t-34/76


a duck with a nerf gun could be better than the T-34/76 though, the trucks on that doctrine are pretty good as well
23 Jul 2021, 17:23 PM
#13
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Posts: 1614

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jul 2021, 10:19 AMKatukov


a duck with a nerf gun could be better than the T-34/76 though, the trucks on that doctrine are pretty good as well

Right...
23 Jul 2021, 19:55 PM
#14
avatar of Mattikush

Posts: 42

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jul 2021, 10:19 AMKatukov


a duck with a nerf gun could be better than the T-34/76 though, the trucks on that doctrine are pretty good as well


Lol they butchered the T34 in the game, feels bad
24 Jul 2021, 09:52 AM
#15
avatar of Katukov

Posts: 92



Lol they butchered the T34 in the game, feels bad


yes but they're cheap so you can spam them, horray


Right...


Please do not insult the duck with the nerf gun
24 Jul 2021, 16:47 PM
#16
avatar of jagd wölfe

Posts: 1614

The council of 4 digit rank has decided that the T-34 is bad
24 Jul 2021, 17:00 PM
#17
avatar of Katukov

Posts: 92

The council of 4 digit rank has decided that the T-34 is bad


the council is clearly favoring ducks, a wise decision, i might add
24 Jul 2021, 22:24 PM
#18
avatar of EffenNewbie

Posts: 1856


Offtopic question, but can you explain why lend lease is popular?

The other two don't surprise me, haven't given lend lease a try in a while


Lend Lease - The M4C gets radio net and is relatively efficient in terms of pop cap. It has a lot better chance to damage something like a Panther than a T34/76. Level 3 radio net with 3-4 M4C's is a lot to deal with.

The guards can be upgraded with either Thompsons or bazooka's. They are "bazooka experts" so their bazooka's have some bite to them, as opposed to regular bazookas which are mostly good for the cool sound they make when bouncing off a Panther.

I don't agree with the sentiment that the T34/76 is trash. Fuel-wise, you can get around 3 of them for the price of two M4C's. The advantage of the M4C is just better penetration and If you treat them like throw-aways then they are, but if you vet them up then they're incredibly cost efficient. A vet 3 T34 can circle strafe a vet 0 Panther, which is oddly hilarious when somebody rushes their Panther out to the edge of a map thinking that they will easily wipe the T34.

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