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T34/85s now suck

10 Nov 2020, 00:44 AM
#1
avatar of Wardog3055

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My first Post. I only play Allies 3v3, 4v4. Been playing for six years man, over 1600 hours played dude, its practically the only game I play, as I work. The MG34s are OP as hell, I've never complained. The Tiger Tanks are OP as hell, I've never complained. The mother russia general was nerfed, I never complained. The off map smoke nerfed, I never complained. IS2 nerfed, I never complained. Whatever the latest(today is:11/09/2020) nerf was too the Allies was just too much. Why the hell was the T34/85s nerfed? I mean, how about just remove all tanks from the allies at this point, damn dude. Man, people who use the allies like to play the game too. Give me a fighting chance, thats all I ask.
10 Nov 2020, 04:25 AM
#2
avatar of ShadowLinkX37
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https://www.coh2.org/topic/4307/company-of-heroes-2-changelog/post/814088

34/85s haven't received nerfs in years. Off the top of my head I think they've only seen buffs since their unintended MG buff that was at least in 2017 (still ingame btw).

As far as the rest of the comments made, I encourage you to ask for tips should you want them. I can tell you this, both sides have OP and UP units currently and in the past and balance is pretty decent currently in large team games IMO.
10 Nov 2020, 12:15 PM
#3
avatar of Leo251

Posts: 309

Seriously are you complaining about the best cost/effective medium tank in the game?

The unit didn't receive a nerf in the past years. The unit was really good since the beginning.
10 Nov 2020, 14:08 PM
#4
avatar of JohnSmith

Posts: 1273

I face the tank often in the game, and they hit as hard as ever, no clue what's wrong with them?
10 Nov 2020, 14:11 PM
#5
avatar of Clarity

Posts: 478

85 has literally been the best medium tank since 2013, I honestly can't remember the last time it got nerfed. 130 fuel for a tank that beats the living shit out of axis mediums seems good to me.
10 Nov 2020, 14:14 PM
#6
avatar of Osinyagov
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Soviets have a lot of weak parts, but T-34-85 not one of them. One of the best medium tanks
10 Nov 2020, 17:01 PM
#7
avatar of gbem

Posts: 1979

the T-34-85 is arguably the best medium tank in the game... it most definitely does not suck
11 Nov 2020, 02:49 AM
#8
avatar of Wardog3055

Posts: 22

https://www.coh2.org/topic/4307/company-of-heroes-2-changelog/post/814088

34/85s haven't received nerfs in years. Off the top of my head I think they've only seen buffs since their unintended MG buff that was at least in 2017 (still ingame btw).

As far as the rest of the comments made, I encourage you to ask for tips should you want them. I can tell you this, both sides have OP and UP units currently and in the past and balance is pretty decent currently in large team games IMO.
11 Nov 2020, 02:58 AM
#9
avatar of Wardog3055

Posts: 22

Well maybe after 6 years of getting my ass kicked I just felt like bitcin', and this seemed like the place for it... I'm over it, everybody get back to the war.
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11 Nov 2020, 06:18 AM
#10
avatar of aaa

Posts: 1484

Its bad . Okw p4 is better. That alone makes it garbage. Remove it from is2 doc and buff it to the level of kv
11 Nov 2020, 09:36 AM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Nov 2020, 06:18 AMaaa
Its bad . Okw p4 is better. That alone makes it garbage. Remove it from is2 doc and buff it to the level of kv


I don't get what you even mean. Buff it to the level of KV? Why would that make sense considering it is a heavy tank and the T34/85 a medium. I also don't agree that the OKW P4 is better than The T34/85 IMO they are somewhat equal. T34/85 has more HP, mobility and is cheaper as well as being locked behind a cheaper tech while the OKW P4 has better scatter and armour. Also the OKW P4 is one of the best and most expensive medium tanks in the game so why would the T34/85 be garbage just because it isn't clearly better than the OKW P4? Makes no sense to me.
11 Nov 2020, 09:51 AM
#12
avatar of Katitof

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The only wrong with with 34/85 is if a player who is bad tries to use it.
11 Nov 2020, 20:20 PM
#15
avatar of Grim

Posts: 1038

I just with they would swap the KV-8 for the T-34/85 in Soviet Industry.

Oh, and that the supply drop wasn't utterly shit.
Pip
11 Nov 2020, 20:20 PM
#16
avatar of Pip

Posts: 1580

I still think it's really rather daft that the T34/85 has Ram. Its an ability that REALLY doesn't suit it, and it seems to have it only because the 76 does. Ram in general is a rather problematic ability, however.

Other than that, yeah, the 85 is absolutely fantastic, god knows how you could consider it "sucking".
11 Nov 2020, 21:50 PM
#17
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34/85s haven't received nerfs in years. Off the top of my head I think they've only seen buffs since their unintended MG buff that was at least in 2017 (still ingame btw).

Was that really unintended? Cause if they had only given that to the 34/76 I think it would be better against infantry than the 85 which would be odd

The 85s main gun isn't that much better against infantry so the mgs put in a lot of work
11 Nov 2020, 22:35 PM
#18
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Was that really unintended? Cause if they had only given that to the 34/76 I think it would be better against infantry than the 85 which would be odd

The 85s main gun isn't that much better against infantry so the mgs put in a lot of work

Yes it was unintended and T-34/85 was supposed to be worse vs infatry. T-34/76 only received the buff because of the "high" tech cost.

Both units simply used the weapon file so when one was buffed so was the other.
11 Nov 2020, 22:57 PM
#19
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Was that really unintended? Cause if they had only given that to the 34/76 I think it would be better against infantry than the 85 which would be odd

The 85s main gun isn't that much better against infantry so the mgs put in a lot of work


To my knowledge yes. The tank wasn't in the position of needing a buff at the time, so giving a substantial MG buff was (probably) unintended due to, as vipper said, using the same weapon file.
11 Nov 2020, 23:45 PM
#20
avatar of SkysTheLimit

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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Nov 2020, 22:35 PMVipper
T-34/85 was supposed to be worse vs infatry.

That seems like a horrible design choice, so I'm glad that accident happened. Makes no sense for it to be worse against infantry and 40 fuel more expensive
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