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14 Apr 2020, 19:54 PM
#161
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

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If the pakhowie gets nerfed, then stuka should get nerfed also.
Atm the broken power level of stuka against team weapons is a necessity versus double pakhowie rush


Both units are fine. Just because something works doesn't mean it's OP.
14 Apr 2020, 19:54 PM
#162
avatar of Graephen

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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Apr 2020, 12:31 PMKatitof

It actually would, because it does the exact same 80 damage any other small indirect unit does.

It wouldnt, because its trading point is firing across the whole goddamn map, having five men for a crew and always hitting right on top of the unit with near-pinpoint accuracy, while having higher AoE than Leig or the base mortars of each faction, except the 120mm.
14 Apr 2020, 20:20 PM
#163
avatar of Katitof

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It wouldnt, because its trading point is firing across the whole goddamn map, having five men for a crew and always hitting right on top of the unit with near-pinpoint accuracy, while having higher AoE than Leig or the base mortars of each faction, except the 120mm.

Its auto attack range is the exact same 80 any other mortar has.

Its barrage is WHOOPING THREE SHELLS, which indeed have long range, but aren't exactly accurate, or on short cooldown.

And Ofc it has higher AoE then leig, leig got heat seeking shells with almost pinpoint accuracy, pack howi actually has scatter.
14 Apr 2020, 21:35 PM
#164
avatar of BlueKnight

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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Apr 2020, 20:20 PMKatitof

Its auto attack range is the exact same 80 any other mortar has.

Its barrage is WHOOPING THREE SHELLS, which indeed have long range, but aren't exactly accurate, or on short cooldown.

And Ofc it has higher AoE then leig, leig got heat seeking shells with almost pinpoint accuracy, pack howi actually has scatter.

Actually Pak Howie barrage is very good. These few shells fire rapidly and are a ton more accurate than the autofire it feels. With these few shells pak howie does what other mortars can't with entire barrage of x shells.The cooldown is also much shorter than what you'd think which allows you to play this unit actively. Barrage is great, autofire is shit.


It wouldnt, because its trading point is firing across the whole goddamn map, having five men for a crew and always hitting right on top of the unit with near-pinpoint accuracy, while having higher AoE than Leig or the base mortars of each faction, except the 120mm.

5 men is not that great as single P4 shell decrews it, it needs 3 men to operate and these 3 men stand next to each other like they have a hot gossip or sth. Pinpoint accuracy is exaggeration too. While comparing the indirect fire units you should also look at the access to counters for the opponents (like rocket artillery that axis have stock) and other features like significantly lower cost of ISG and converted Schwehr/Battlegruppe in proximity making it so much safer to use and less exposed to enemy infantry fire/flanks.
16 Apr 2020, 14:30 PM
#165
avatar of Graephen

Posts: 25

It still isn't balanced. You can't say that...
It wipes too often, but doesen't fire as slow as the 120mm and isn't doctrinal - it is the best light artillery in the game.
18 Apr 2020, 20:00 PM
#166
avatar of thekingsown10

Posts: 232

The US pack howitzer has been a major balance issue for ages
30 May 2020, 17:24 PM
#167
avatar of strafniki

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pack howie is basically a brummbär without armor, so it must be fine
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