some Little detail in the german list a wrong.
there is even one of the rare Jagdpanther aces who fought on the eastern front:
Jagdpanther:
Hermann Bix: 75 kills(eastern front)
http://tommymartin.info/?p=808
Upon returning to the front, Bix was assigned to command a JadgPanther with the 88 L/71 gun. In his most significant action, Bix with his two section mates were defending against a Soviet push. When his two mates ran low on armor piercing ammunition (AP), he sent them back about a mile to establish a final defensive line and took up position to blunt the Soviet attack. He was ordered to hole the village, while the German infantry withdrew, he had 20 AP rounds remaining. Two crews without tanks came up to help him. They would act as infantry and guard against the Soviet infantry or pioneers getting with range to attack the lone tank destroyer.
The Soviets sent forward some T-34s to scout the village, Bix destroyed these immediately. Then the Soviets attacked in strength. Bix ordered his gunner to make every shot count, then started to identify targets. He picked off the lead tank, then selected one near the rear, this caused a traffic jam among the attacking Soviets and Bix’s gunner started picking them off as they appeared. While moving to various different firing positions and allowing his gunner to have access to the Soviets, Bix was able to destroy 16 Soviet tanks and allow the German infantry the opportunity to withdraw.
Next day, he was helping the German infantry in the counter attack. He aided the infantry, destroying many machine gun and anti-tank gun emplacements. A few days later his section was dispatched to assist a Grenadier battalion that was surrounded on an estate near Warsaw. He contacted the commander to determine how to be most effective. He then took his 3 JgPanthers to a small hill and positioned to defend as the sun was rising. Bix assigned his mates to positions on the hill and took the prominent position himself. As the sun rose, the Soviet tanks could be seen moving in the village, Bix positioned himself and ordered his team mates to open fire. During the battle that ensued 19 Soviet T-34 and KV-1 tanks were destroyed, with Bix accounting for 11. The Grenadier Commander offered Bix his personal Iron Cross First Class in appreciation.
In less that 3 weeks, Bix had destroyed 75 Soviet tanks, for these actions he was awarded the Knight’s Cross in March 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Bix
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I hope I can add to the topic with some numbers, if you got more acurate ones please link me to them, Im genuinely interessted.
Here is a list of all Soviet IS-2 aces I was able to track down:
followed by a list of some other soviet and german tank aces. Its ofcourse not a complete list.
I picked the overall best for the soviets, and the top commanders for the germans sorted by the vehicles they commanded. Because the clear majority of soviet aces were t-34 commanders, and on german side it seems to be more spread out, if you dont count the tigers.
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1st lt. Lukanin Veniamin Grigorievich - 19 kills
- he commanded both an IS and a KV, I dont know how many kills he actually achieved commanding his IS -
Lyahov Pyotr T. - 9 kills
Reznikov Mihail - 8 kills
- actually a gunner not a tank commander -
1st lt. Galpyorn Vladimir I. - 6 kills
- + 14 guns -
lt. Hitzenko Ivan I. - 5 kills
lt. Boyko Alexandra L. - 5 kills
- fun fact: a woman -
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The most successful overall tank ace on soviet side:
1st lt. Lavrinenko Dmitriy Fyodorovich - 52 kills
- commanded a T-34(-76)-
After him come
lt. Kuchenkov M - 32,
Moiseyev N. - 31,
cap. Dyachenko N. - 31,
cap. Samohin Konstantin Mihaylovich - 30,
subcol. Burda Alexander Fyodorovich - 30 and
1st lt. Bochkovsky Vladimir Alexeyevich - 36
all commanded T-34s, for the most part atleast
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Those guys as far as I know where the most successful soviet, even allied tank aces.
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Overview of german tank aces:
In Panzer IVs
Strippel, Hans – 70
Riedel, Franz - 40
Kändler, Willi - 24
Kretzschmar, Willi/Willy - 15
In T-34s^^
Seibold, Emil – 69
In Panthers
Barkmann, Ernst - 82
Giese, Hans / Horst - 58
Malkomes, Hans - 24
StuGs
Spranz, Bodo - 76
Primozic, Hugo – 68
Brandner, Josef ("Sepp") - 66
Sauer, Konrad - 65
Jagdpanzer IV
Roy, Rudolf - 36
Nashorn
Ernst, Albert - 55
Ferdinand
Teriete, Heinrich – 22
Kretschmer, Franz – 21
Hetzer
Dallmeier, Josef - 50
Now the "fun" part,
Panzer VI Tiger
Knispel, Kurt – 168
Carius, Otto – 150
Bölter, Johannes (Hans) - 139
Wittmann, Michael - 138
Egger, Paul - 113
Rondorf, Heinrich - 106
Gärtner, Heinz – 103
Körner, Karl - 100
Kerscher, Albert – 100
Woll, Balthasar ("Bobby") - 100
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Here is the list:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B
Many of the Tiger aces are more a mix of Tiger I and King Tiger.They were driving a Tiger I mid in the war and later a King Tiger.
IS-2 aces:
place 20: 23 kills
place 27: 21 kills
place 39: 19 kills
place 96: 9 kills
On the Tiger ace list there is missing:
Martin Schroif: 161 kills.
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In that interview we had here with questions from staff to Quin Duffy (yes, it was a long time ago) I asked if commander redesign was a possibility and the answer was yeah. I'm not saying they are going to, and I doubt it, but what is your source where they said no.
This game is and always will be a second rate RTS with the fucktarded doctrine design. The newer diverse ones are fine, the original and DCE ones need to be scratched completely and redone because they are complete dogshit and I'm not going to pull any punches.
HAHA oh yeah i still remember the "new" DCE Edition commanders.They were just remixed old commanders.This was a very bad joke from relic. |
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I think the commanders themselves are fine, it's just that they porbably should've gone for a different business model for them.
No.There are way too many commanders and too many commander Units.
Stuff like tank traps should be non doctrinal.And relic shold ve add more Units to the tiers like making KV-1 non doctrinal and put it in soviet T-3. This would give the factions much more variety and Options.But instead everything is locked in a single stupid commander and you can only choose one of them.
I wish they would do the Blitzkrieg mod System from vCoh.
I would like to see taking 50% of the commanders away and giving all commanders 10 Abilitys/Call in Units instead of the louse 5.And also Options to a choosable tech tree like in VCOH.
This design fail where all the Options and Units are split in thousand of commanders is just dump. |
So is soviet tiering.
Yet neither will be changed, ever.
I don t know why relic makes decisions that nobody understands and nobody wants.I think they doesn t even know for themselfes why they do this. |
The commander system is a complete profit win!
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I believe Relic is more than capable of doing this its the elegant solution we've all been looking for. There are ways to satisfy people who have already purchased commanders, that wouldn't stop this idea from moving forward.
It would be worth it for us, it would be worth it for them.
I don't mind seeing new factions, but not at the cost of the commander system staying the way it is.
Relic already said that they won t Change the stupid commander System.They are not interested in giving the People what they want. |
Commander overlap and commander system needs fixing...8 pages of people agreeing (fan feedback)...the effort put in would be easily worth it....everybody wants it....instead of making new factions.....please....
+6886768567
The commander System is a complete design fail. |
I wonder how a T-34 squad would peform. Buy it, for the rough price of a Panzer IV, get 2 T-34/76 as part of one squad. That would encourage people to be more reckless with them, since losing one doesn't mean losing the veterancy and it can be cheaply replaced. It'd actually be fairly Soviet-like in that manner..
A squad would be fun like the sovet sniper ones.
But then the ram Need to go away from the tanks or it would be OP. |