Profile of MarcoRossolini

The whole smooth sloped armour thing of these later war tanks just look so elegant. Personally I prefer the T-34 but that's just me.

Thats fine, if German tanks with bigger or equal caliber guns don't get out-ranged by Sovs just because and not because it made sense.

Damn, I can't think of any German unit that might do a similar thing to the obviously implied SU-85... Oh wait, there's the StuG... Panther... oh and the uncounterable Elefant. Remember, the SU-85 is a tank destroyer with a hullmounted gun and terrible manoeuvrability. Range is the only thing it has. Sure, it out ranges 2 of the tanks I mentioned, but don't tell me Soviets aren't in a similar position with all their turreted tanks? (none of which have any range bonuses (as opposed to the Panther)).

Anyway, what larger calibre guns? The largest tank gun the Germans have is the 88mm. (the Brummbar is an exception but that short barrelled howitzer gun that it mounts is hardly an equivalent to the ML-20 on the ISU.) The gun on the SU-85 is (obviously) 85mm, that's hardly much of a difference. Meanwhile the Panther mounts a gun of inferior calibre to the 85mm and still outranges the T-34-85, what gives.

Anyway, Calibre isn't the primary factor in determining muzzle velocity and range. It's projectile weight, size and the length of the barrel. An APDS shot is effectively a 2 pounder shell (think something smaller than a T-70's shot) which is made to take the bore of a larger gun whilst still being much lighter, once fired, the things that make it fit the calibre of the gun drop away (hence discarding sabot) and the additional speed of the lighter shell makes it penetrate better. Calibre only comes into effective once the shell hits the tank. A 152mm shell from the ISU doesn't need to penetrate as the effect of the explosion would kill everyone inside the tank from concussion or metal splinters. Meanwhile the 2pndr shot from a tetrarch in vCoH would need to hit something pretty important to do anything, if it penetrated (this was improved by the little-john adapter)

The only slightly effective counter to Panthers I've found is vet guards spam. Have them park themselves out the front of panther with alternating button and then just wait as the PTRS slowly grinds down the health, back this with an SU-85 or 2 and Panthers have nowhere to go but forwards to be buttoned or backwards to retreat.

My problem with the Panther is that it basically invalidates most if not all Soviet doctrinal armour, unless an SU-85 is extremely well supported it's going down and god forbid the Panther blitzkriegs... German T4 outclasses Soviet T3 in all aspects making going T3 a risky and often depressing endeavour (German T3 is just as superior) Even Soviet Doctrinal hardware can barely stand up to it. ISU-152 can barely penetrate half the time and is blitzed and outflanked the other half. Make the Panther doctrinal? Too late methinks but a man can dream... I like the idea of a marder series (that you could keep upgrading with new stuff, chassis, gun etc to make some sort of nashorn or the like).

It strikes me that the Panther is fine, but Soviet non-doctrinal hardware isn't, simply put T3 isn't good enough and T3, which has all the mobile armour, is what should be the "dance partner" to T4 as T4 also has the mobile armour... Of course, the problem there is that whilst the Soviets have to go assault guns or tanks, Germans in both T3 and T4 have a choice for both...

Just my 2c...

Sounds like Aussie CoH2 gamers are pretty stuffed then, we always have 200+ pings when dealing with the US and 3-400 pings when dealing with EU. Doesn't sound promising to me I must say... that said Battle servers are a step in the right direction.

TM-38 mine, which was an anti-tank mine, squad wipe.

S-mine, which was an WW2 Claymore, rains a lethal spray of shrapnel everywhere, kills only one dude.



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True, but watch out for looking for realism with mines, iirc the majority of Soviet mines were made of wood, i.e. impossible to detect with a minesweeper.