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It has only been one game but this unit is straight up useless. I know I got a bad roll of rng in my game but I literally lost for trying to use it. I had control of the map for most of early game, opponent sw3itched to blobbing JLI to stall for P4J. Our tanks came out around the same time, out of a total of say 6 shots I think 1 penetrated. I ended up making 2 to see if maybe I was just being unlucky. It was more of the same. What is the point of accuracy if it doesn't damage the enemy tank. The game snowballed and I lost after that.
No big deal but at this point I am struggling to figure out what is the point of the E8, it cant tackle more than a P4 with side skirts nor infantry. The commander does not give you a way to get immediate wipes such as rocket art or indirect. The crazy thing was in my game I flanked him and got 3 or 4 wipes using 1 white phos ability. But I couldnt capitilize on killing his tank because my shit kept bouncing.

To hopefully figure out how to use this commander can the mods form a 1v1 tournament where they have to use USF and Rifle company when they play Allies.

https://coh2.serealia.ca/
Relatively up to date if I'm not mistaken

I think hoorah really makes a big difference though. Really useful for getting behind an MG, closing on a long range squad, etc.

And in the end, just get shocks. They're just a better version of ppsh penals, whereas cons give more utility and a good discount compared to both

Thanks, I completely forgot about that website. Looking at the curves the Penals would hit harder early while the conscript would deal close enough while having better Vet3 durability. If I am reading the graphs correctly the PPSH upgrade is massive from short to mid range(16). My next question is if this is a single model DPS graph or for the whole squad? If it is single model, it would make sense to have at least one penal run around in a clown car as a chase unit.

On a different note why does OKW have better RA compared to Ost when they have larger squads? They always seem to float MP unless there are team wipes.

what would something to this tune feel like?

penals start with a mix of ppsh and SVts (make em cheaper if needed)
-this makes penals more aggressive, but also enables them to coexist better with cons instead of basically replacing them. it synergizes with the clown car and also gives soviet more brazen aggression which fits the units inspiration

allow them to upgrade to either upgrade and replace the PPSHs with more SVTs or PTRS.
this keeps their versatility and still allows soviet to have a "standard" fighting squad



as for the airdrop SVTs.... they shouldnt exist. cons were never meant to outfight the enemy, they are supposed to outlast them.

replace that with airdropped medical- something the soviet will certainly want, especially if it comes early. replace the airborne hut medical with a strafe or intel or something else.

I like the idea might be too much to implement though. most of us are pushing for the penal "upgrade" since we assume it would be easy to implement. I agree about SVT upgrade, it literally lets conscript do everything at a semi elite level with elite level durability.

I just think you're downgrading your men with PPSHs overall for reasons already discussed (bleed on approach with expensive models etc.) Either way they're still grossly weaker than Shock Troops which will just make them get used less. We have penal PPSHs already in the Airborne commander iirc and how often do you see those?

It is an airdrop in exactly 1 commander that can also upgrade conscripts. I would like to see the drop in at least 1 more commander

Its probably too late now for any suggestions because the patch is probably ready for release, but here's to future changes.
In the patch, both cons and penals will benefit from conscript repair package. This is a great change which adds versatility without making the ability too strong. It would be nice if conscript assault package got the same treatment where it would give access to ppsh for both cons and penals. Wehrmacht already has jaeger light infantry upgrade which affects grenadiers, panzergrenadiers and stormtroopers which is awesome and I don't see a reason why soviets shouldn't get the same privilege.

I have been bugging for this for 2 weeks now.