Profile of rumartinez89

Where I agree is that USF is fairly weak early on. The weak Echelon starting squad combined with relatively expensive Riflemen and long build times on the officer basically ensures that you're at the very best on par with Axis for the first 4-5 minutes, but probably behind. Even compared with Ostheer.


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This is what used to kill me about playing USF. They are a snowball faction but the snowball is intentionally stalled by Officer timing. The build time is 55 seconds for your 4th mainline which is insane when compared to every other faction. Soviets don't even need to tech molotovs because they can just swarm OST, USF on the other hand cannot unless the MG was caught out of position. It wouldn't be so bad if if Rear echelon were actually useful in combat or the Elite units came in at CP2. As it stands it gives OST a chance to dig in which is where USF bleed starts to set in and get worse as the game goes on.

While on the topic of Officer tech, I still don't understand why everything takes so long to build. Several patches ago the LT build was dropped from 70 to 55s, but the MG had 10s added to the build time. The M20 takes almost a minute to build so at best it is out around 4m~30s. That gives it almost no time to pay itself off compared to the soviet flame car which can actually wipe units starting at the 3 min mark.

Only Thompson (tommy gun) Ranger have good DPS even at MID range.

They have around 93% DPS of LMG obers at range 20 and up to 138% higher DPS closer.

But is that is not really related to Riflemen.

Where did these numbers come from? Based off serelia the LMG does 12 DPS at 20 range while the Thompson do 5.8 DPS. At VET3 LMG does 20 while the Thompson do 7.7. There damage is good if they had a way to close in.

Agreed with this. Its not like Soviets where I can go Maxims, hit 2CP and then start pumping out Elite Infantry all day. The way USF is set up currently with its Tech Structure doesn't allow for Rangers or Airborne. If I already have Two-Three Rifleman Squads, a Rear Echelon, and an Officer I am pretty much good in the infantry department.

Rangers will bleed your MP dry, they were much more useful when they had 10% damage reduction as they didn't bleed as much. They are essentially more expensive Rifleman now with some gimmicks on them that aren't needed.

This is also one of the reasons why you see Pathfinder spam, even though they are worse than Rifleman, you could use them as a Rifle replacement. For Rangers to work they would have to be available at T0 and designed specifically around that like Panzerfusiliers. For example starting as a 4 man squad, Thompson upgrade would add 5th man to the squad or Unlocking Major would add 5th man to the Ranger Squad.

What about making the Ranger squad an upgrade to rifleman similar to the dozer for the sherman. It could unlock at CP2/3 and would be a straight improvement to the squad in rec acc and damage while maintaining 5man squad. It would probably be better to switch back to the Para Carbine profile so the upgrade causes the Ranger-Rifleman to play the same. Would be easier for user and enemy to understand how and where to engage.

Imo mixing ranges or even weapon types on a squad just leaves you with a squad that can't do anything properly

I have to hard disagree with that statement, PF and Paratroopers literally disprove your point.

The best close range units aren't great because all the weapons are CQC focused, they are great due to a good combination of smoke/cloak/durability/ability. For this argument lets stick to Allied units since this issue is seen more on the allied side. Shocks are great due to smoke and extreme durability(armor+6man), Airborne PPSH for cloak and smoke while also having ok durability due to 6 man. I think most would agree Assault Guards aren't as good since they only have durability and have no way to actually close in.

But looking at it from a DPS point of view they are every bit as strong if not stronger than the Airborne PPSH despite only having 3 Thompsons. IF we put them in their optimal DPS range (0-10) for both I am pretty sure Assaults Guards would win most of the time due to the weapon switching feature/bug. Since the DPS is concentrated in the 3 models, as the models drop their performance barely falls off until the 4th model drop whereas the Airborne PPSH would lose around 17% with each model.

This is similar to Paratroopers in that they don't lose much DPS until the 3rd model however Paras are still significantly better due to Tactical Assault allowing for instant wipes which reinforces the combination I was talking about earlier.

What I am proposing is literally a USF Fussi. Thompsons can't be dropped just like G43, both have flares, sprint, snare while the rifleman would also be able to build sandbags and throw down mines. Also the in game 2-thompson upgrade only takes 1 weapon slot so you can even put a BAR on them to make you happy. At that point they would be Fussi on steroids. That is why I was unsure of proposing a 3 Thompson upgrade for both slots which would still be mix and matching but would create the best mainline CQC in the game.

For those worrying about balance it would only be in one commander(Rifle Company) and fairly expensive muni wise. So upgrading all of them would be quite an investment and they would still have a weakness at long range. However at close-mid they would dominate and force enemy to try something different.

5 grease guns, upgrading 2 grease guns into 2 Thompsons. Very dangerous CQC squad. Also comes with an AT satchel for 'some reason'.





Rifle Company used to have vet I riflemen call-ins off the bat and rifle flamers. This was not missed by anyone except meta abusers. I think this has influenced Rifle Company ever since.

Yea, I would prefer regular Rifles with the 2 Thompsons and a snare since most engagments are med-long range. Might not get easy short range wipes but it would be easier to keep LV away. In rifle company, using sprint would allow for some close range shenanigans along with snare synergy like a few of those OST commanders.

Rifle commander used to be OP as hell, especially with my 3 Rifleman VET bulletins. Also wasn't the VET on the call in rifleman Random. I feel as though I remember getting Vet 2/3 Riflemans called in.