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Ok here we go:
M17 Quad
Doesn't it arrive way later than others suppressing HT (both USF and OKW). Muni cost could go down or not (90-100) after those nerfs?
PD: you know you have crap AA when they have to buff it by x100. Although this isn't too much and should be 3% per shot instead of 30% ? Other AA sources to same levels ?

Given it's rate of fire, it should shoot down planes in about half a burst every time one comes in range?

Poor Ostwind.

I'm eager to see how squad spacing changes plays out.

I don't disagree. But even so, it's frustrating when sweeping changes to every contributing factor of a problem are made. It makes it impossible to determine how much any one change impacts the game. It irks me as a scientist.

Honestly, I think I'm going to be partially salty about any patch that doesn't result in tiered resource points for the WorldBuilder. You know so maps aren't doomed to suck or be clones of each other.

Most of these options are really not worth it, and the "put MG34 in tier 0" is the worst of all, I keep hearing this one a lot, I don't know what it is about that makes people think OKW needs an early HMG.

They don't need it, but they need a T1 HMG as much as USF needs it. But TBH, this is a more throwback suggestions from before USF mortar. An early HMG helps OKW be able to do something if they're put on the defensive by heavy rifle/penal play.

But again, it's an old suggestion.

Although quite frankly, OKW needs a t0 MG as much as Ostheer needs a t0 MG. Take that as you will. Kappa.

In my opinion, this comes mostly from players who skip medtruck to get an early luchs.

Kind of. The early luchs option needs to be considered in the faction design as well as rushing the medic truck or delaying teching at all. There shouldn't be an 'intended' pathway for teching or rlse you end up with some pretty linear and stagnant play.

Those ideas are beyond being considerable for two reasons:

1.: The side tech would be entirely pointless, because every OKW player had to go for it anyway. No grenades on their main infantry? No easy access to an alternative? That's the reason why USF got their ridiculous mortar and why everyone wants to keep it in the game, despite it working against anything the faction was designed for, which in term makes it completely unbalanceable...

Fair point. What I meant with having the nades be sidetech was for them to be quick and cheap allowing for a player to stick with t0 units a bit longer to deal with garrisons before choosing which truck to tech to. Ten fuel for incendiary nades into T2 luchs can be preferable to being pigeonholed into medic truck to deal with, say, garrisoned maxims.

2.: The costs you want to redistribute to other things would be extremely pointless, because these things are already fucking expensive. Sure, that would make healing and repairing (which is kind of stupid on OKW anyway, if we compare repair speeds with, say Soviets or Ostheer) more accessible, but at the same time nobody would ever again go for the retreat point, because it is on the verge of being unobtainable in anything but 4v4 already. At the same time, the cheaper USF tech gets their retreat point for free by the way, combined with cheaper healing. Something doesn't add up here.

I think you misunderstand, (edit, also, my wording sucked so I apologize for that). I mean to REDUCE teching costs, not redistribute the side techs. Medics would still cost the same, but Forward retreat point would be 100 manpower cheaper, and the medic truck would cost a bit less to set up. Similar for repair squads and as well as the previously mentioned side tech for incendiary nades.

If you want to lock things behind side techs, the teching itself has to become cheaper - that's the reasoning behind Brit teching being so bloody cheap. Alas, that adjustment never properly took place when it came to OKW and their healing (yes, there was an adjustment, but we can easily see now that it wasn't even close to being enough).

This is exactly what I am suggesting.

You are correct. They suffer against suppression platforms.

If Vickers were performing like an MG42, OKW would also have issue vs Vickers. 50cal comes too late, and USF doesn't really need force multipliers to win the AI fight.

Doesn't this imply that it is the Soviet maxim that might warrant a look at then?

What if maxims acted like vickers in terms of suppression? Vickers love to get kills, but they don't lock units into place like nobodies business.

Off the top of my head, I'd say key changes that would benefit OKW without breaking things further are:

Volks incendiary nades t0 side tech. 100m 10-20f. Allows quick response to garrisoning without having to invest all the way into the next tech.
T0 MG34, no truck needed.
ISG smoke barrage.
Reduction of medic and repair side tech costs by accommodating the costs into things like truck setup costs or forward retreat point upgrade. (Side tech of Flak gun to unlock panther seems quite feasible.)

The more extreme option is to move Obers to medic truck, give them a (double) panzerschreck upgrade. Reduce cost to 340-360. LMG34 becomes upgrade unlocked with flak truck. The lazyman's idea is to throw OKW a clone of Stormtroopers somewhere before the time Obers currently hit the field.
This idea frees up Sturmpios from having panzerschrecks and gives them the options for something like smoke grenades, which is entirely appropriate for the squad. And THAT could unlock when a truck sets up.