Profile of Basilone

Sadly Gabe aka RiSiN passed away last week. He will be missed by the vcoh community.

Nobody is nitpicking, you are just flat out being wrong about game genres. It isn't about base-building vs call-ins, your strawman collapses right there. Using strategy-games is a really stupid way to describe what you mean, because MTG, CSGO and LOL are strategy games. The only way to discuss strategy games is to break them into smaller categories.

There is no strategy games playerbase, you will never sell Starcraft to 4X players. Civilization playerbase does not give a shit about RTS games. Civilization BE is a completely different game from Starcraft as far as game mechanics go.

I guess it's too hard for you to differenciate that there is too many genres on STRATEGY games. If i say i refer to strategy games i can be talking about RTS or RTT (real time tactics), turn based, grand strategy (HoI) or city building (Anno/Skylines). Guess what, MOBAs ARE strategy games, more focused on the action part (ARTS). You have MMORTS (Clash of clans) or Tower defense games. Finally even artillery (Worms) games are considered inside of the strategy genre.

The majority of the people who played RTS on the 90/00 had been basically absorbed by the MOBA genre (DOTA, LOL, SMITE, HOTS). The ones closer to RTS not something like Battlerite. Not talking about the hardcore players but more on the "casual" side.

Except I mentioned a bunch of "RTS" games like Total War, Wargame, Men of War, Paradox, etc. I wasn't talking about Cities Skylines and PUBG, so no strawman. All I'm saying is its too early to declare RTS dead when COH2 is about as popular as COH1, other non-traditional RTS games are very popular, and there's been a lack of recent old school RTS games that were actually good. If AoE4 is an amazing game with terrible sales there would be more evidence behind the theory, right now is too early to say.

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That while we have a bigger market of people playing games compared to 10 years ago, classic RTS are taking an even smaller share of the market and less and less sequels have been relevant or new titles released with success compared to the last 10/15 years.

Read slow, and careful again. I'm talking about traditional REAL TIME strategy PvP games. HoI4, Civilization, Europa Universalis, Stellaris, Total War (with the exception of Arena), don't fall into this category. Guess what? They are the ones with the biggest sales and player retention (DLC targets).

From the 90s to 2010s, it was the best time for RTS. From 2013 onwards it has been a downfall. We talk about CoH2 having a relative small playerbase for automatch "balance matchmaking" with it having around 5K players (which in general less than half are looking for a game). Not a single title has been close to having these numbers. I'll give a memorable mention to Men of War, that while been basically an ARMA of the RTS, it was a success for what it is. A really niche game which manages to retain a healthy playerbase.

Sequels and spiritual successors of many gems from the 90s/00s had rough releases, didn't come close to expectatives or basically shut down, which basically kills the saga or put it on a really long stasis with no hope for a new release soon. C&C (Tiberium, Red Alert n Generals), Total Annihilation, Homeworld (kinda), Halo Wars (for it's IP name is was not even close), recent DoW3. It would all be fine if other titles would had taken the lead. I've seen hype for ex-Westwood's Greygoo or Steel Division. Look at how they are now.

There's nothing in the incoming future. The only 2 relevant titles are AoE4 and IMO Iron Harvest and those are at least pushed to 2019

This nitpicking over the certain types of RTS games is stupid, its like watching a bunch of hardcore libertarians argue over the legitimacy of drivers licenses.

A:"No man COH isn't a real RTS, there's no resource harvesting."
B: "Oh yeah it is man you just have to fight for them, but you know what's not an RTS...that Wargame series. It doesn't even have base building ffs"
C: "No bro its totally a RTS, but those world domination games aren't because you control armies instead of soldiers"
D: "But they are RTS because the clock advances in real time. Everything strategy game is RTS except for those MOBA games because....reasons"

Why do you care what the market share is like? COH2 came out after your golden age of RTS games and it has a playerbase close in size to COH1 even though it really came up short on expectations. More people play PC now because its more accessible and they want to play CSGO, PUBG, Battlefield, open world survival, tactical shooters, etc. Those are people that never had an interest in RTS to begin with, its not like the RTS core fanbase disappeared. There hasn't been any great broad appeal strategy games that fit your narrow definition of what strategy games should be, so they found the strategy elsewhere. If AoE4 is actually really good, it will sell accordingly. I'm not saying it will take PC gaming by storm and win over new converts to the genre, but it won't flop either (assuming the windows store requirement doesn't kill sales).

You are American, talk about cognitive bias. Now I am intrigued however. How did my statement become incorrect?

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Somehow these statements contradict each other lol.

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paradox would be an awesome developer, they make the best games and are really really committed to their communities.

Almost 0% chance that the Paradox in-house studio will develop a COH, its just not their type of game. They did publish Steel Division, developed by Eugen (developer behind Wargame series, which were published by Focus Home Interactive). I could see them publishing a Relic game, or buying the rights and letting Eugen develop it.