Profile of Balanced_Gamer

How I think about the TD's are like this!

SU SU85 for 120 fuel is very good and reliable. It always seems to penetrate most tanks and has good DPS for its role. No turrent which is its only main downside. It is also accurate on the move but no as much in comparison to Jackson I believe.

USF M36 Jackson costs around 140-150 I believe. It is the best I would say since USF can recover very fast with their vehicles. Has the range and the best part, it has the best moving accuracy making this deadly. Fast too.

UKF Firefly costs 155 fuel I believe. It has the slowest fire of them and the highest damage being 240 but its DPS in comparison is lower. I think why it is like as it currently is, might be because of their upgrade to rockets. That significantly stuns and damage enemy vehicles. Brits have access to as well strong, heavy vehicles. Might explain why its worse in comparison to the rest because of this fact!

I mean if you talk about Axis, their TDs, are not as significant a role as Allies. Since their range is all slightly shorter than Allies TDs. Less penetration also but enough to take on most but the heavy. That is why Panther is the only shot they really have. Even then, they all require Panther to suit in other situations that many allied infantry does better on AI areas. Panthers does help support for Axis overall weaker scaled infantry units mid-late game.

Falls still are attractive due to the snare and camo regardless of obers imo.
They are a different flavor, harder to use but higher skill cap as well.
They are not bad infantry by any means, o ers are just easier...

I do agree that Falls are attractive due to their versatility but I think that is where it makes this unit unfavourable.

It costs around 360-380 which is hell a lot of manpower. For its current performance, it performs worse than Pzgrens (better in close-mid), Obers (better close-long), Jagers (mid-long) especially Sturmpio in (close-mid) range.

I feel this unit Falls could do for its current price with an additional man. A 5 man squad instead of its current lackluster role to fulfill as a special unit, to make it strong or even a potent unit. USF paratroopers always win against Falls even when you attempt to use camo. In fact, against most other factions (even axis own elite that are cheaper) elite units, they lose.

For me overall, Falls just need better potency for that price. Their are not worth it currently for their performance.

The new commander for OKW is good.

The Panzerfusiliers upgrade to 2 Pzshreks is good but I think it would suit better for Sturmpio instead. Since Panzerfuisiliers are doc and especially they have access to snares making them too good. I feel it be a proper suit and a fix if Sturmpio got access to 2 Pzshreks instead.

That would be a balance and a fix to Sturmpios AT current issue!

I think this is more preferable since Sturmpio AT upgrade is currently unbalanced and too weak.

I think you just simply trade the AT Pzshreks upgrade between the Sturmpio and Panzerfusiliers.

Since Pzfusiliers have snares, they should be limited to 1 Pzshrek whilst Sturmpio should get 2 Pzshreks without snares. Balance and fix, am I right?

Bazookas deal less damage, 80 vs 120. 2 schrecks = 3 zooks, and because of how Allies vs Axis armor is balanced, zooks have worse penetration.

Piats are much worse attacking, mainly defensive.

The worst focused AT infantry unit in game is simply Sturmpio (AT package)!


Sturmpio AT upgrade limited to 1 Pzshrek only is rather limited. Has no snares which is what it should not have but they should get access instead to 2 Panzerbursche for the unjust price of 70 ammo.

60 ammo for Penals AT upgrade does 2-3 times better since it does 240 damage in 9 seconds while Sturmpio does half 120 damage. Penals have snares while Sturmpio does not. It is currently the worst and the underwhelming AT infantry focused unit in game! I am quite everyone cries when they have little alternative/options between either AT support weapon or AT infantry unit. Being forced is some way just to pick only one option which is currently Rak only. Sturmpio AT it currently places you in a terrible spot!

Devs and audience, check comment 7 & 9 here on this link. Check also other comments. https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245957/sturmpio-2-pzshreks-and-revamp-raketenwerfer
I explain why it needs changes and how it is currently unsuitable or not proficient at all in AT the Sturmpio. Did include also Rak for certain reasons also!

USF and UKF although has less penetration and damage with zooks and piats, all in all has way better accessbility especially the addition of using snares. Makes them better than OKW overall has in utility wise, in terms of AT.

OKW is quite lackluster in AT accessibility. Fix Sturmpio AT Devs please. 70 ammo is unjustified and it is currently not potent enough to suit as AT role. For its current performance and price, it is simply underwhelming!!!

First: Which time frame are you talking about? OKW has a Panther for heavies and a JP4 for medium AT. Late game AT is not the issue. The only issue is that with the current LV meta OKW is forced to get a Puma, since Raketenwerfer is very mediocre and you always need two to be really threatening. This and the lackluster infrared-light is also why few people play the med-HQ. One Raketen will only allow to delay the enemy but not destroy the LV if the LV is played properly. I think the Raketenwerfer suffers most from rng wipes due to bad spacing (also on retreat, which is its most important gadget - take a shot or two and retreat to stay alive), but that discussion is in another thread. Puma is like a AEC - meant to counter LV and maybe take a peeking shot at a medium. After that, the most valuable asset becomes the stun shot.

Why should OKW be better in everything than the Allies? As SOV, you might have decent AT but bad team weapons (especially a lacking MG against an infantry-aggressive faction like OKW) and no fortifications. USF has okay-ish team weapons, bad fortifications compared to OKW and good AT. UKF is slightly OP, but is very immobile due to the lack of high DPS AT.
Only OKW has the ability to set up a complete forward base (reinforcing, healing, even auto-repairs and defense). The only faction that can do that is UKF, but only with the right commander choice and at way higher cost.
Don't want your trucks destroyed? Place them in the base sector like absolutely every other faction. OKW has the option of a forward base (and can also spawn units there), not the obligation.

I am talking about their options.

I never said OKW should be better in everything than the Allies!!!

Even then, OKW is not OP! Just putting words where they do not belong or never were does not help anybody. They are simply different in their own way but suffer the ability to counter their fuel issues. When I mean by that, it is either counter their Fuel or AT problem. NOT BOTH. Look to what I said on the last sentence. Does that still mean I want OKW to be OP. The answer is simply, NO!

If they have issues in gaining fuel, at least have the potency enough to counter properly the enemy who have tanks. Right, that makes sense does it not?

It does not make sense to have a fuel deficit on a top the inability to counter enemy vehicles at the same time properly right?

Either have a problem in Fuel or AT. Not both. That is unbalanced right since Fuel and AT is what keeps the balance in check, right?

Well as I said. OKW stands only a chance in surviving against Tanks is with Tanks mainly. Rak we all know is unreliable since it gets countered easily. It needs to be proificient and potent enough like all other AT guns.

Why suffer both in AT and Fuel! One only is justified because having problems in both does not make sense, does it not?

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Allied factions have some good team weapons.


What sucks is simply and I will say this in order>

SU suffers MG only, Maxim as we all know. AT gun and mortar is great since they are potent enough. They have also the best survivability. So capturing an enemy team weapon counters their problem. Although it would be nicer just to acquire yourself the team weapon from base.

USF has great support weapons. AT gun and Pack Howizter I believe is the best or top in game because of the impact it has in game. MG is very good also but its arc is limited in comparison but has great suppression and damage. The fact that you cant use them all at the same time, that is the only key issue!

UKF has great survivable strong support weapons although AT support weapon is not as good as USF. The emplacements downside is just its manpower cost but its performance is great. Perfect for holding/maintaing ground. Dont have mobile mortar but have a decent MG.

All of their AT guns except USF (the ability to get penetration counters their problem) have less penetration but are overall proficient. Raketenwerfer simply is not!

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I am not saying Tanks should be more accessible. I am saying. Accessibility to better, proificient AT equipment is what they need. Can have penetration like USF AT gun or like what allies have since it has been stated, it is worse. Remove camo, have same range as any other. It must be a proper AT support gun. Revamp.

How are you guys not see this right.(Those who suddenly change the story or jump into different conclusions!)

I stated clearly, "Better AT support units". Where did I even mention, get tanks earlier?

Never said, never had. Although I suggested before the possibility to get JagdpanzerIV if and even after last PanzerHQ is destroyed because of their current incompetent AT choices! Only dedicated AT unit choices! Even thedarkarmadillo (You do not I mind if I reference you right? https://www.coh2.org/topic/91739/to-justify-okw-no-caches-no-bases-refund/post/750863) mentioned this idea because of the very same reason. I (We) not trying to make anything OP. Rather we seek to balance out the problems which OKW especially other factions suffers.

Lack of proper AT, that needs to be fixed! That is all to it.