Profile of Rosbone

Just to clear things up for everyone (since Whiteflash got the wrong idea), I am not "blaming" the community. I am trying to ENGAGE the community and MOTIVATE them to take part. Hear it like "Hey guys, we did this to ourselves. So lets fix it." The point I made was "testing maps is a waste of time if its not guaranteed to be in automatch." The 2v2 maps were destined for automatch. That was the whole point of the contest.

The harsh reality is you need a lot of plays to find things out.

FIRST ROUND:
Play some games vs the AI. This finds a lot of things that will never be found by a human. Like hidden paths thru areas you did not know existed. Places where units can jump objects and become trapped. You can play around with pathing etc.

Playing the AI does not tell you how the map will play because the AI has no real strategy like rush the fuels and camp the cutoffs.

SECOND ROUND:
Play as many games as possible with as many players as possible. No one plays exactly like anyone else. People put units in weird places or setup healing, buildings, etc in weird places. People blob or play MG spam, etc. The more games you get in the more you will know about a map.

THIRD ROUND:
Get the pros to play it. Get good players and see how they move around the map and abuse things they see. Are areas to easy to fight into for a certain faction, is the fighting stagnant, etc.


There are all kinds of maps for all kinds of people. Lets use our vetos and work together. I absolutely hate playing City17 and Essen Steelworks. But I realize others do enjoy them. So I spend a lot of time looking at them constantly looking to help those guys out. Because I am just one of the 5K+ players everyday.

In all honesty I heard about the map contest but I didn’t have friends willing to test maps. My friends and I rarely play and when we do we go 3v3 automatch, not testing maps.

I appreciate your honesty and I like your idea of getting something together that is more formal.
Taking time to test a map that may not get into the game is a waste of time. So I totally get people not doing it. Personally, I do not have a position in the community to do something like a formal test phase.

But testing a map right now should be fun for everyone. You get to try out some crazy new strat with commanders and there is no pressure. But people are afraid to look bad, lose, etc. But all you need is about 15 minutes of decent play to figure out most of the map.

Realistically you need two phases.
PHASE 1: Everyone tries the map out and we flesh out any major bugs, see where fights take place, see if there is some strat that can be abused, etc.

PHASE 2: You need top level players to test the map for balance, abuses, etc. But in team games, even this may not tell you much. Too many other variables.

As usual the real problem is the community. During the 2v2 map contest (that this map was made for) : no one had an opinion, no one tested it, and no one cared.

https://www.coh2.org/topic/62866/ponary-forest-2vs2

I think this map was designed to give a new and fun experience for those bored of playing on open field maps. Which Aerafield has pointed out.

Tric has been very open to change some things since its was added. Perhaps some better feedback in areas people have an issue with could get things fixed up? Pictures, etc.

>3v3
>top players
pick one

This was a cute joke. I giggled. But seriously listen to Aerafield, his player card says all you need to know. Or watch a replay of the last 4v4 tourney where he played against "top" players and did very well. Sadly SOmE of the other great team game players did not all play in the tourney

And dont forget you have a built in option in COH2 called spectate, that lets you watch high level games in all modes all day long. It will surprise you what gets played sometimes.

I used to love comp stomps. Setup a map with me and a bot against four bots or something crazy for ultimate death.

AI ISSUES IN COH2 (Basically team AI is there to make it harder to win. Never to support you and make it fun.):
- OST AI starts with pios who walk to the front turn around and walk all the way back to base, passing new AI units leaving the base. Every game, OST is useless for about 2 minutes.

- AI vehicles that follow your vehicles around and block them every chance they get. "Oh your trying to move 10 meters? Get fooked! Blocking you!" I only play with Cheatmods now so I can delete my teams vehicles when needed.

- AI who stands around an empty team weapon for 3 minutes while your pios walk to the gun, then steal it from you and retreat back to base with it. Th AI ignores all weapons until you click on it to take it, then they take it.

- The AI that runs over taking your supply drops as they are landing.

- Enemy AI waits until your camera view moves off them to throw grenades. This seems like it would make it more micro intensive, but it is just annoying and actually causes you to do much less mircoing.

ISSUES WITH PVP:
- Things die too fast to a single squad. It is frustrating to click off a unit and they get wiped immediately. This is game-breaking-annoying when you have lag.

RNG:
- Sometimes the RNG is just ridiculous. Totally destroys any immersion. A little less RNG would be great.

PAY 2 WIN:
- I like the current supply drop system. But I dont mind playing a lot of games to learn a commander before moving on to a new commander. Many people want all of the commanders day one. So maybe make the supply/drops a little quicker?