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Thread: WC 2020 aftermath indirect fire support weapons 25 Nov 2020, 17:02 PM Stat from WC 2019: Ostheer built out of 40: 8 mortar in 8 games 2 MHT in 2 games Soviet built out of 48: 6 PM-41 in 6 games 1 PM-38 OKW built of 61 games: 7 leig in 6 games USF built out of 44 games: 10 mortars in 10 games 6 howitzer in 5 games 4 airdropped howitzer in 4 games 7 MHT in 5 games UKF built out 8 games: 1 pit In: Lobby
Thread: WC 2020 aftermath indirect fire support weapons 25 Nov 2020, 16:28 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 15:36 PMProtos Angelus Didn't you hear? A couple of whereaboos... Pls try to cut down on characterizations of that sort in this thread. They are not constructive. Thanks in advance. In: Lobby
Thread: WC 2020 aftermath indirect fire support weapons 25 Nov 2020, 14:51 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 14:11 PMJulianSnow My guess is that it was the commander picks that made them miss out the tourney. Elpern / Angry Dutchman use them in their streams which are fairly high lvl players imo I can see that for ostruppen (although one can easily back tech) but USF have T0 mortar and the commander comes with MHT. In: Lobby
Thread: WC 2020 aftermath indirect fire support weapons 25 Nov 2020, 14:06 PM In the recent tournament mortar type units so very little action. What it the reason that these units so little action. Do they need changes? or other unit need changes so that they can be used more? Do they need a price reduction? In: Lobby
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 13:10 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 12:57 PMT.R. Stormjäger Judging by Sander93’s thread, it seems highly likely that my old proposal to lower Ostheer medkit costs from 15 to 10 will make it to the preview. Other than that, I’m not sure what kind of buff LMG Grenadiers could be given. I did have an idea to give them a unique “hit the dirt” ability that immobilizes them (can cancel it after 10secs or retreat immediately) which would give them 5-10 extra LMG42 range. This both fits their role and plays to their strengths and defensive nature without being overbearing. Not sure what else could be done. What kind of changes do you have in mind? The would give range beyond their sight so it will not always work and in addition DPS is not the problem Grenadier have. And once more grenadier do not need buffs because that simply leads to power creep, the other infantries need nerfs especially since VG are not doing that great either. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 12:02 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 11:51 AMT.R. Stormjäger Spamming riflemen in 1v1 is a surefire way to get rekt. Even if you go 5 infantry squads (3 rifles 1 officer 1 elite) it opens you up to a lot of manpower bleed from enemy infantry, vehicles and support weapons because you don’t have spare manpower to buy support weapons. In no way does USF infantry need a nerf. Sections and Cons could be rebalanced with some aspects buffed and some nerfed, but not in a clear cut nerf. Point here is power creep needs to stop and be reverted. The problem is very complicated and nerfing osstruppen is simply not enough. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 11:35 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 11:26 AMProtos Angelus Not really. Grens lose medium/short range. As they should. The whole idea behind OST early is to use pios sight bonus combined with arc/range of MG42. In sort you have to use all your units combined to win an engagement while you opponent can spam mainline infatry and cap all the map. That might work in 4vs4 in what you play but other mods is another story. Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 11:26 AMProtos Angelus 5 man grens are an option if you want to play grens early on the same as you would play rifles/ISs. Ostruppen are just spammable and quite decent behind cover (for their price/reinforce value of 16). 5 man grens are not that OP tbh. They are a bit cancerous to play against but they are doctrinal. Come late game, LMG grens become more than enough with vet to hold ground against assaulting rifles and ISs. And if you need to assault, the plethora of great tanks combined with PGrens can do the trick. Same as how USF relies on smoke + rifles to assault positions and the reply to that is the werfer or PGrens bundle nade. Point here is that most player choose anything else but making vanilla grenadiers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 09:18 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 08:47 AMOrangePest I honestly think that the balance is going to be in a very dangerous state. Ostruppen/5man are imbalanced BS. Obviously but the larger issue is that normal grens simply arent playable in any way. The call in infantry is crutches to make the faction playable. What will happen when normal grens go up against vetted rifles with two bars. They'll get their shitstomped. And that is part of the reason why early allied infatry should be toned down (along with changes to ostturppen/5 gren). Grenadier are struggling and now VGs also start to straggle. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why Relic Needs to Stop Listening to the Community24 Nov 2020, 16:48 PM Think we have to clear up something. Design and balance are different things so one should not blame the design if the game was not balance. The game at release was plagued with bugs. The game at release had many things random event that where way to impactful. The game had a factions that where more distinct. The game had a number of other features some of which where cheese. Many of this thing have been fixed/reduced/removed and it has become easier to balance the game. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WC 2020 aftermath 22224 Nov 2020, 10:38 AM In the WC 2020 we saw extensive use of 222. Is the unit too cost efficient? Should the unit be nerfed? should the unit be replaced in the early game by redesigned 221 and become available later and redesigned? In: Lobby