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Thread: OKW stuka balance (possibly OP)?8 May 2018, 08:26 AM Imo Stuka could be changed into using incendiary munition as default. The salvo could be changed to fire them in pairs and CD lowered. That would make the unit good at dealing with support weapon and garrison but allowing the enemy to react while being more consistent than the current hit and obliterate everything or miss weapon. The vet ability could then replace the incendiary rounds with HE. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of USF artillery6 May 2018, 18:55 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2018, 18:07 PMKatitof I have yet to see you tell something is not "very cost efficient" about literally any unit or ability, regardless how bad it was. Yes, major arty looks amazing on paper, everything looks amazing on paper. M-42 looks amazing on paper and I'm 100% positive that if someone made a topic on how bad it is, you'd be the first one screaming "how amazingly cost efficient it is for its cost and how it should never be changed". But its a gimmick that provides muni strain and is of limited use. Imagine you paying 60 muni every single time you want to use a panzerwerfer barrage and its max range is 50. Barrage looks amazingly on paper, but would the unit be useful on the long run? Same thing for major, most squishy unit in the whole game and a constant muni strain if you want to utilize him, making it impossible to save for weapon upgrades or off-maps. Here you go again talking about me once more, I am not sure why you are obsessing with me but you should give it rest. The ability can easily take out bunkers that cost the same munition and more manpower, clear garrison and help kill OKW trucks. In addition the decoy/barrage can be keep the opponent guessing and relocating Soviet, Ostheer and OKW would love to such an ability available stock. In addition Major give much more. The unit and ability is cost effective. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of USF artillery6 May 2018, 17:39 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2018, 16:59 PMKatitof Or maybe something else could be done? Regardless of pack howi performance Major and his barrage are very cost efficient. Jump back to quoted post6 May 2018, 17:09 PMFiresparks ...The shells are weakers, there are less of them, and they arrive sequentially with longer pause between them. ... By vet 2 Major gets +6 shells. The ability is fine for cost of unit and mu cost. It is great for blowing up bunkers and OKW trucks. One can also use the decoy to keep enemy guessing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of USF artillery6 May 2018, 16:33 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2018, 16:17 PMKatitof ... Major arty is more of a gimmick then a viable option because of low range and inability to use it without LOS. ... If only USF had some sort of reckon like the recon planes Major has so that they could use their Major arty. OR maybe some smoke so that major could close in. I am not sure what some people expect from one of cheapest units in the game (cheaper than CE) that comes with 5 unique +1 abilities and from an ability that cost 60 munition In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Spring update from design point of view. 6 May 2018, 10:46 AM To improve counter play vs the .50 cal mortar, sprint is being removed from veterancy 1. M2hb .50cal Heavy Machine Gun Team • Sprint veteran ability removed • Suppression reduced from .00006 to 0.00054 • Veterancy 1 increases suppression by multiplier of 1.1 The removal of sprint as vet 1 ability should also apply to Dshk. In addition "load armor piercing rounds" is too powerful for a vet 0 ability. It should be changed to work as Dshk "armor piercing round" and not us the HMG-42. If the weapon need more penetration that should come via veterancy making the "armor piercing rounds" add penetration with veterancy. Jackson We are removing the M36’s extra sight bonuses and slightly reducing its range. The Jackson will still be an effective tank destroyer due to its high mobility, penetration and damage. • Range reduced from 60 to 55 • Sight reduced from 40 to 35 • Vet 2 sight bonus removed Removing vet bonuses should be avoided since the unit's performance should justify the new XP value. It should be replaced with something else. In: Lobby
Thread: Mgs late game4 May 2018, 13:10 PM The same will apply soon to mortars, but probably even worse since mortars create yellow cover themselves. (He is talking about the yellow cover created by explosion in late game and reduces the effects of suppression.) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: different approach to delaying Luch timing4 May 2018, 09:47 AM Jump back to quoted post4 May 2018, 07:04 AMCartoonVillain Is it that good though? I've seen replays of top players that dared to go Luchs and it doesn't seem to be that potent tbh, except maybe vs UKF, but even then, it seems to take forever to kill anything if you sit at max range with it. Luch uses a very weird mechanism. It has some of the lowest modifier vs heavy cover but use the point blank mechanism. There is little reason for this complicated mechanism and the guns of 222, Luch and Centaur should all use the same mechanisms simplifying things. Their DPS can be balanced according to their time and cost. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: give strumpio 2 kar98k3 May 2018, 14:02 PM Jump back to quoted post3 May 2018, 13:54 PMEtherealDragon So SPios become 4 men Volks you don't have to buy the STG upgrade for? Cool. They are better as they are now where you get rewarded for good micro and ambushing units but punished for bad micro and getting caught trying to close in. ST STGs and VG STGs are completely different weapons. One could test lowering XP value and POP and give them 2 MP40 with the option to upgrade to 4 STGs or 1 sweaper (replacing an MP40) or 1-2 shrecks (replacing an STG44) moving grenades to vet1. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Spring update from design point of view. 3 May 2018, 10:31 AM BOIS (BOYS)Anti-Tank Infantry Sections The AT Infantry Section will no longer be able to purchase upgrade kits due to their existing versatility. • Can no longer upgrade Medkits/Pyro supplies • AT nade range from 20 to 15 • Bolster Infantry Squads no longer applies to AT Infantry Sections Like Guards the problem start from the combination of high AI and AT. Imo making the AI on Boys rifles a timed ability would solve the issues without less issues. The triple nerf will turn this troops into snare infantry. Universal Carrier The UC is having its price and armor adjusted; these changes add a choice to delay tech to field strong early-game anti-infantry but also allow small-arms to penetrate the vehicle more frequently, increasing counterplay. • Hit points increased from 200 to 240 (WASP & Vickers upgrade no longer increases HP) • Cost changed from 260MP to 200MP/10FU • Front armor reduced from 10 to 7 • Rear armor reduced from 5 to 4.1 • WASP upgrade cost increased from 70 to 75 MU • WASP range reduced from 32 to 30 Mu cost seems unnecessary for such a fragile unit. Imo the unit could also benefit from either better pathing or better rotation. M3 Resupply HT • Weapon drops (Vickers/PIATs) now require HQ research before deployment The unit should simply be redesigned since it bypasses a number of limitation of as the single lmg per squad. Centaur Scatter is being increased to reduce the Centaur’s offensive capabilities and ability to wipe units, even on retreat. • Scatter angle/distance increased from 5/2.15 to 7.5/4.15 • 20mm Strafing Fire ability now has a minimum traverse of 15 meters • 20mm Strafing Fire ability cost reduced from 50 to 30 The unit needs a number of changes like lower armor (currently has the same armor as Cromwell), bigger Target size (currently has the old Cromwell target size) lower damage to light vehicles similar to Luch (currently rips light vehicles apart). Finally it would be great if the mechanism of luch, 222 and Centaur main gun become the same. The current different characteristics increase complexity without any real advantage to balance. 6-pounder The 6-pounder is having its bonus against heavy vehicles removed; it will still be capable of reliably striking light vehicles, but will no longer have a guaranteed chance to hit tanks. • 50% accuracy bonus now only applies to light vehicles The accuracy bonus mechanism should either be removed or expanded to other weapon also like M42. In addition it could be expanded to TDs. TDs could have their accuracy reduced and have bonus accuracy vs specific targets like SU-76 could have bonus light vehicles/medium tanks, Panther/FF/M36/SU-85 could have bonus accuracy vs Super heavies. In: Lobby
Thread: Guards need a adjustment2 May 2018, 16:32 PM Jump back to quoted post2 May 2018, 12:33 PMKatitof Thank you for repeating patch notes for 70th time. No one is arguing that current nerfs are unjust or should not be applied. There is only one delusional person thinking guards are king tigers of infantry who keeps using critical mass examples to back his claim. Dear Katitof you are welcomed. I knew you would appreciate it since you seem to have a hard time finding patch notes and you end up writing silly things like that gammon bombs cost 70 mu or that Penal Satchels are more powerful than gammon bombs when information like that can be easily found in the patch notes. In: COH2 Balance