Profile of Selvy289

Tried a game on game pass, first game I had I got a bugsplat.


Unless this is just game pass, you cant view your player-card or the ladder.


Update: Almost every game I have played iv had a bugsplat.

Did some digging, the ML20 fow multiplier is suppose to be 1.75.



Almost wasnt wrong about the aoe. Not sure about what the reasoning behind removing the extra shell through.

This was in the December commander update e.g the tank hunter commander.

Fuck me if im reading this correctly LEFH barrage has 500 range, im certainly going to test this.

Edit: Okay after testing, counter barrage dosnt increase range. Their is however in the abilities folder the victorbarrage. This means nothing most of the time but I decided to look at it anyway, its spooked me when it mentioned the counter barrage from the LEFH and has a value of 500 range.

Myth of increase range for LEFH counter barrage debunked.

iirc both scatter and AoE damage of the leFH and ML-20 are almost identical (the mid AoE damage for the ML-20 should be 56 instead of 30?). so the "base" performance of the two arty pieces should be quite similar, except the higher near damage of the ML-20 (not really too important against infantry unless in heavy cover) and the extra shot fired.

Thanks for pointing that out about the ml20. I just went for the ml20 barrage profile instead of the ml10 on its own, ill change that right away (It dosnt help that their are 10 weapon profiles).

counter barrage is a whole different beast though, as Descolata already pointed out. i'd say the higher base damage is justified as it gives the leFH a bit more power against self-propelled howitzers - one of the intended targets of a counter barrage. if it should also be that much more deadly against infantry is probably debatable, and a reduction of the AoE mid damage modifier might be a good call to bring it back in line with other on-maps.
this or the active resource penalty as suggested somewhere above might also do the trick.

Against hard targets, counter barrage damage is warranted. The nature of counter barrage against infantry and support weapons like mortars is different (I believe it even reacts to the zis barrage too), having 70 mid aoe dmg is ludicrous and overkill. If any modal gets hit, it only would take one round from afar to kill it.

Also where abouts does it say an increase in range for counter barrage?

A big problem with nerfing the LEFH is that it is easily killed by anyone with a recon + call-in artillery. It's a static piece with no brace and huge scatter in Fog of War. In many situations you won't even keep a vet I+ LEFH for long.

While several LEFHs can counter SPGs, the reverse is usually true instead. Eg: Hamburg several Priests/Sextons focus firing a CB LEFH (out of 2-3) and it's gone before the firing cycle's over.

I personally think the ability's fine taking the above into account.

EDIT: Speaking of fixed arty guns - the ML-20's a pretty poor arty piece overall, though I suppose the base dmg is higher(?) if I read the stats correctly.

Re-edited.

Edit:

	LEFH	ML20
Base dmg	160	200
AOE radius	8	8
AOE distance (close,mid,far)	2,4,6	2,4,6,
AOE dmg (close,mid,far)	1,0.35,0.05	0.9,0.28,0.05
total aoe dmg	160,56,8	180,56,10
Angle scatter	9.25	5
Fow angle/distance multiplier	1.75	1.25
Number of shells	10	8+1 with vet 1
Reload	2.25-2.75sec	3sec
Range	250-vet 3 around 305	250-vet 3 around 305

Lefh counter barrage is 200 dmg and dosnt change the aoe dmg (making aoe mid a whopping 70 dmg). Im going to make an assumption here but because the scatter dosnt get changed, this means counter barrage shots rain everywhere which is could be a problem for larger more dense team game maps. To be frank, its a absolute overkill of aoe dmg towards anything that's not a vehicle or motor pit.

looking into counter barrage again, the fow multiplier matches the ML20s.

The priest is almost the same as the ml20 (even dmg wise) except with lower range and a mid dmg multiplier of 0.28 making sure its mid aoe dmg stays at 56 but with 7 shots per salvo in total. It has a aoe radius of 7 and a range of 180, at vet 3 240.

The sexton is just weird. More deadly against infantry (160 dmg with a mid aeo dmg of 80 but only in a radius of 2.5 and with a far aoe dmg of 32 with a aoe distance of 6 also being its total aoe radius) but less range than the priest with 160 range and at vet 3 around 210. It has 8 shots per salvo.

Obviously the biggest advantage of the priest and sexton is not being stationary artillery.

Its giving me too much of a head ache to do all of them. This is considering OP is only taking about counter barrage on the LEFH. Hope this gives a better picture.