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Gotta say really disappointed to not see a change to penal battalions in this. If Relic would want maxim spam to end, give us the tools.

Honestly this thread is well founded, this faction has been in poor positions due to exploits/outside factors before but since they have come away really well off. I think though that once other factions find those issues addressed that things will setter down.

To point out early game issues that would balance out the OKW if they were addressed I can think of afew immediately.

Kubel has been the one early game scout car apart from the AEC that has seen the fix it needs but not overnerfed or buffed, but AEC isn't particularly early and won't stay in its present form

Due to this kubel fix I'm shocked that the bandaid fix that the clown car got year+ ago now hadn't meant it revived something unique and useful to encourage its use, a squad of cons behind your lines isn't very frightening, and selecting tier 1 is a virtual death wish. Not to be forgotten is the WC51 either, really odd especially as it's the counter faction.

The OKW also no longer seem to really have any issue affording anything but maintain this right to very powerful equipment and troops, whereas it must be said there is not much fear anymore let alone shock when shock troops apear, or penals.

Please take away here, that what in saying is we as a community actively participate in this issue of rubberband balance, and if we want change it should be a case of admiring that small tweaks may accurately solve the problem counterintuitive to directly nerfing the faction.

I like OKW, there's things I dislike, but I think we're all much better served by changing early game issues elsewhere and it will sort itself by large and part.

This thread is in need of a multiple DonnieChans.

Glad you have self restraint

Lots of furious rage in here. So many fingers pointed. Why don't we just agree that commanders come out unbalanced as a general rule of thumb, that means for both sides too.

This means acknowledging things like the worst commander on release the game ever saw, elite troops with tiger ace. Never to be forgotten, Siberian wins game with no army left, by calling in 1 tank. Even the B4 at release although ridiculous, wasn't a 1 machine army. So unless the landmattress is an I win button at release, it can be said that slowly there is improvement lol.

Never forget the ace release, never. Never never never.

The truth is that it can be countered by using brace structure; therefore, not an iwipe ability.

Only 1 faction has brace. So balanced for 1 scenario. This is no nearer reality than yesterday but it can be worked out. Red flares are back in discussion so that promising.

Now come to think of it you do bring attention to underrepresented artillery. The B4 we had discussed earlier, but the Brits on field artillery is quite lacklustre. The 25 pounder was really the small skittles come 44. Great uncles regiment landed with 5.5inch howitzers and shelled up the Rhine until the surrender of the battered Nazi regime. Basically be built in the same way as a 152 howitzer or 105, would need something unique like a smoke canister round.

Gustav didn't really hit its targets directly that often either so I think the round would need a similar scale of scatter to that of the current B4 or IS2. I believe the one accurate shell with two in accurate shells currently is for the precise reason of preventing to much damage to one spot.

I mean, the player base really disliked abilities that took out OKW HQ trucks in one go, so that discussion would be open again now that railway would destroy allied structures in one strike.

Honestly the can of worms this would open, I don't see relic touching it frankly.