Profile of Grumpy

I play with a good USF player who sometimes goes RE Rifle Fighting Pit WC51. This is in 3's or 4's but I think he does the same in 1's. The fighting pit goes up around the cut or VP. Depending on what is happening, he'll put either an RE or rifle in the WC51. I'm not sure how he chooses. Upgraded WC51's with RE's are great against sturms or Kubels. I don't think he uses them against garrisoned Volks or against Panzerfusiliers.

You really sure it is 8 seconds?

I made a video today using Fraps instead of trying to guess it by counting. The first butterfly bombs hit a little faster, somewhere between 6 and 7 seconds. The main group hit a second or two later so I think I was missing the first impacts and kept counting until the mass of them started hitting.

Also, the Fragmentation bombing run was actually a little slower than I was thinking. When watching the video and not trying to control 2 computers, it looks like more in the range of 5-6 seconds. The time difference between the two wasn't as great as I thought it was. The fragmentation run has a smaller delay but the plane seems to move slower. That makes it OP on Alliance and mediocre on anything bigger. It needs about a 1-1.5 additional second delay and a plane that flies much faster.

The edge of small maps like Alliance really is a problem. The only way I could avoid a wipe was if I had the units already selected and moved it on the warning sound. Even then, it would be badly damaged. If you have to select the unit and move it, it doesn't have enough time to get out of the AOE.

Alternatively, they could do something to it like they did to the cluster bombs. I hear the plane for the cluster bombs but not sure they're actually dropped by the plane. It may just be a timer. I'd be fine with a timer for all skill planes.

Also, just to be clear, I don't have a problem with how hard the Fragmentation run hits, only its timing on small maps.

If you know there's a 5% chance for main gun crit then why exactly cant you factor it in?

All your overextending punishments are punishments for lack of skill on behalf of the attacking player. They're not skill based defenses. Every single one of those can be avoided by a skilled attacking player.

I hope they hit my mine, or I hope they get in range of a snare is a random factor also. It's relying on your opponent to make a mistake, and those mechanics aren't particularly fun.

Fighting with a low health vehicle is rolling the dice, and sometimes you'll roll a 1.

Every flank could be called an overextension. I've flanked an Elefant only to get a main gun crit on a T34.

I wouldn't lose any sleep if it was gone but also think that Relic would have no interest in removing a feature from the game.

PTAB could get little buff to damage and make engine crit like regular snare. Right now it have the same damage to vehicle as Fragmentation bombing run for OST, while don't make any serious damage to infantry.

It would need to hit as fast as the "totally not OP" fragmentation bombing run to have any chance of hitting a tank. Right now, it's around 6 seconds slower. It does some damage to infantry but doesn't wipe anything so its okay in that regard. If it hit a little harder and did an engine crit it would be okay.

IMO it is totally not op. I used cluster bombs example to illustrate that similar abilities exist and are cheaper. Those boms are supposed to kill. You have reaction time. Sometimes it is just better to move to the side rather than retreat. It is very similar to penalty shots in football. The goalkeeper must just just dive left or right and has a chance to save the goal if he is lucky. Same here if you predict that the opponent will retreat you draw a line of bombs on his retreat, butbifnyourbopponent moves left or right instead of retreating they won't die.

Yes, cluster bombs used to hit at around 5-6 seconds, which was considered OP. They were nerfed to around 8 seconds to impact. Your "totally not op" fragmentation bomb hits in about 2.5 seconds on a small map.