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I'm against that.
The factions are too similar already. 4 men squads are the Ost specific desing. It's supposed to be their weakness.
What is needed is a characteristic strenght for Ost and that was supposed to be an "additional" good performing tier in the form of T4. Unless that isn't buffed Ost will underperform. |
Because devs can't patch noob out of players....
Constant top 25 opinion vs the forum trolls opinion. K then.
Ever tried playing UKF in this patch? They are WAY worse than Ostheer and yet I don't see a million UKF needs help threads on COH2.org
Because they got actual buffs. |
How many Ostheer needs help threads do people open on coh2.org nowadays? Isn't 1-2 enough? It's getting silly. That's just the result of the helplessness and the devs not wanting to fix the fucking faction. It is a farce at this point. |
Just increase the cost of T4 to justify needed buffs to make the vehicles perform better. Isn't this how balance works around here?? Or if you are really high IQ you can solve this equation of price and performance by lowering the costs of current T4 vehicles so that people start using them at wanted levels.
Simple economics guys. I agree. If necessary, increase the cost of T4 and then buff the units. This means the units will not be redundant and overshadowed by T3 stuff. |
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Ost T4 suffers from the classic quadruple nerfs + buff of its counterparts over the years.
While it was good years ago it got armour nerfs, vet nerfs while Allied TDs got pen or HP (Jackson) and the Allied heavies got buffs through the bank (mostly large hp pools). Not to mention buffs to all Allied infantry (rifles, conscripts, Brit buffs impending).
It was obvious Ost T4 could not keep up with this power creep.
That means Ost has to heavily rely on the units that perform (T3 and Tiger). Either T4 gets buffs or the T3 meta remains. |
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gg wp
Learned form this game to take the JT + Panzer 4 over the KT + JP 4 in 2vs2. Just ridiculous how that thing gets locked down by TDs. |
And since this applies to almost everyone in this thread: How is it possible to play hundreds if not thousands of Ostheer games and still be so damn mediocre with the faction or at the game?  Are you referring to me? Rank 22 2v2 randumb and 0.67 win ratio is considered mediocre these days? We can't all be 3v3 heroes.  |
No reasons behind his argument just MOD TEAM NO LISTEN TO ME SO THEY DUMB
You know if he was in charge of balance the game would be 100% balanced because he is so big brain
He gave a number of arguments... which you obviously try to avoid.
OST is still trash (horrible teching, dont have LV, dont have 60range TD, have far inferior 4men infantry, tanks are not so good as they should for the cost, etc, etc, etc). Ost is supposed to be a late-game faction, but dont have any late game "tools"! Ost is supposed to be a defensive faction, but they are being kicked in the face by the lot of arty or explosion damage Allies have.
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+1 Ostheer is trash lategame. Against its intended design. It's obvious the devs are biased. Brits get straight up buffs while Ostheer (which is in the same bad spot) gets "adjustments". |
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Those heavy tank nerfs will hit Ostheer harder than the other factions.
You can play Soviets without the IS-2, you can play USA without the Pershing (+ that one isn't even affected), but you cripple yourself as Ost if you don't get the Tiger since it replaces Tier 4 entirely.
That wouldn't be so bad if there were Tier 4 buffs impending but a mere 20 armor on the Brummbär and fiddling with the tech cost isn't going to make Ost lategame viable out of the sudden.
The lategame faction will struggle way more in the upcomign patch in the lategame.
All while Brits get (deserved) straight up buffs. Meanwhile Ost can eat shit.
P. S. does this nerf also affect the Tiger Ace or just the regular Tiger? |
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