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That is my point. AA Halftracks will counter these new T2 skip builds, people just have to let go of their trusted T-70 builds.
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That is my point. AA Halftracks can counter these new T2 skip builds and force backteching or severe map control loss until Ostwind arrives. People just have to let go of their trusted builds (like T-70 rush) and adapt.
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Both AAHTs kill the 222.
It takes three Panzershreck hits to kill an AAHT, and suppression doesn't stop them firing. Get a second Panzershreck squad (640/120/0 vs 520/0/20 to tech the Pak) and you'll probably kill it outright. An AAHT doesn't force you to sidetech T2 any more than an OKW AAHT forces Soviet to sidetech T2.
Yes, there are things which work against Panzergrenadiers pretty well, but those things also work against T2.
T2's off-meta and bad value even if everyone does switch over to AAHTs.
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Both AAHTs kill the 222.
It takes three Panzershreck hits to kill an AAHT, and suppression doesn't stop them firing. Get a second Panzershreck squad (640/120/0 vs 520/0/20 to tech the Pak) and you'll probably kill it outright. An AAHT doesn't force you to sidetech T2 any more than an OKW AAHT forces Soviet to sidetech T2.
Yes, there are things which work against Panzergrenadiers pretty well, but those things also work against T2.
T2's off-meta and bad value even if everyone does switch over to AAHTs.
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640/200/0 - schrecks are 100 muni per set on Pgrens, and you have to buy them as a set. Also, this assumes a vacuum where the AAHT isn't covered by rifles, which will eat schreck Pgrens since they have almost no AI (2x STGs) and are 4-model squads.
AAHT/Quad/Long-Range AI vehicles are exceedingly effective against T2-skip because of their range, which are less effective against normal T2 due to the Paks range.
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That is my point. AA Halftracks can counter these new T2 skip builds and force backteching or severe map control loss until Ostwind arrives. People just have to let go of their trusted builds (like T-70 rush) and adapt.
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Simply false, AAHT isn't a hardcounter to T2 skip at all because you're failing to factor Ost will usually have at least one or two MG42 with magic bullets and tellers. Actually most Soviet players will always go T70 because it's got much more shock factor and not shutdown by a 15muni MG ability.
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I think the poll says it all. Case closed.
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The poll is a 53/47 split at the moment. There's nothing conclusive about it.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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That's more balanced then some match-ups in game.
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Are you just repeating what I said?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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