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Move Conscripts 7th man from t4 to t3?

21 Jun 2019, 21:05 PM
#101
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 20:24 PMKatitof

Which units?
The out of meta units were buffed to the point, where they are appealing alternatives, like RETs or M5 quad.
Out of infantries, there were only toning DOWN of units, like con weapon slot limit or bren nerf.
The patch notes of last couple of patches do not seem to support your claim here.

Indeed, brens were nerfed, IS have their bonus RA in cover removed, Royal engies had their RA nerfed, and vet 3 reinforcement cost increased, Cons lost a slot, Pfusies now lose a slot when they upgrade to G43s, Volks flamenades have a timer now, Penals had their vet 3 RA nerfed (when they got PTRSs) moving cooldown nerfed and reinforcement cost increased, Rifelmen can't have double 1919s and had their vet 3 RA nerfed, bundle grenades/light gammons were nerfed, heavy sapper armor was nerfed, assault engies had their 0.9 RA moved to vet 1, Lieutenant had its BAR removed. I probably missed some, can't be bothered to look through all the changelogs.

Hardly "only buffs and no nerfs"
21 Jun 2019, 21:05 PM
#102
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 20:24 PMKatitof

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Thanks you for taking the time to write a long post (that I am not going to read) that can be summed up into your usual opinion "you wrong because I say so".

I have made simple point:
Units should be balanced around the optimum point not the "average" point and if that mean chancing more units to do, so be it.

Weather Relic did find the "optimum" point is a separate issue but the argument that is "easier" to buff one towards the average instead of bringing all units towards the optimum simply does not hold water.
21 Jun 2019, 21:13 PM
#103
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2019, 20:24 PMKatitof

Which units?
The out of meta units were buffed to the point, where they are appealing alternatives, like RETs or M5 quad.
Out of infantries, there were only toning DOWN of units, like con weapon slot limit or bren nerf.
The patch notes of last couple of patches do not seem to support your claim here.


Well, there was that small issue with the 250mp building spawning, 4 man sniper squad that could also booby trap points, sprint without vet, ignores cover and gets an ambush bonus. For 250mp and 45mu.
That imo would definitely qualify as over buffing the ever loving fuck out of a unit.

Stronger and cheaper isn't creating a good alternative. It's breaking the game.
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