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Yes, please post name. I've been watching the 2v2 finals on Twitch and haven't seen anyone play the terribly OP USF. Did the elite players agree that USF was too OP to play in a tournament?
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I propose that we remove the M8A1's ability to auto-fire and attack ground. To compensate for this, I would decrease the cooldown of both the regular and the smoke barrage.
This would increase the micro tax of using the M8A1, and remove its ability to kite infantry and so effectively target units on the move.
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His in-game name is CPU-Non Standard, meet him a lot in 2v2. I don't believe he plays tournament, and why does everyone brings up tournaments and pro players all the time? Is this game built for pros or for the normal players?
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An idea of what I would change before throwing it to testing.
- Near AOE distance from 1 to 0.25
- Near AOE damage from 1 to 0.8
- Mid AOE from 0.25 to 0.3
- Far AOE distance from 3 to 4.
- Far AOE damage from 0.1 to 0.15
- HE barrage cooldown from 75 to 45.
- Smoke barrage cooldown from 60 to 35.
- Auto-Attack reload from 2.75/2.9 to 3.75/4
- Auto-Attack ready-aim time from 1.25 to 0.375
Damage drop-off would be 0.25/2/4 is 80/30/15
Damage drop-off previously at 1/2/3 was 100/25/10
Another AOE change to increase damage at distance and reduce drop-off in exchange for a much lower OHK radius. Buffing the barrage while nerfing the auto-fire is meant to make the M8 less effective at attrition when left to its own devices, but can support more readily. Also auto-attack is made more responsive on the first shot to compensate.
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Wow what? You can´t just dive for Scotts unless your opponent is braindead. They don´t die in one hit like rocket arty either. They actually have 400 HP which means you need 3 tank/at gun hits. In case of the Puma even 4. Plus they have smoke. All that makes Scotts really hard to kill if the USF player is somewhat competent and has a decent army that includes good enough TD options.
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An idea of what I would change before throwing it to testing.
- Near AOE distance from 1 to 0.25
- Near AOE damage from 1 to 0.8
- Mid AOE from 0.25 to 0.3
- Far AOE distance from 3 to 4.
- Far AOE damage from 0.1 to 0.15
- HE barrage cooldown from 75 to 45.
- Smoke barrage cooldown from 60 to 35.
- Auto-Attack reload from 2.75/2.9 to 3.75/4
- Auto-Attack ready-aim time from 1.25 to 0.375
Damage drop-off would be 0.25/2/4 is 80/30/15
Damage drop-off previously at 1/2/3 was 100/25/10
Another AOE change to increase damage at distance and reduce drop-off in exchange for a much lower OHK radius. Buffing the barrage while nerfing the auto-fire is meant to make the M8 less effective at attrition when left to its own devices, but can support more readily. Also auto-attack is made more responsive on the first shot to compensate.
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Another reason why the Panther needs to get 200 damage with corresponding RoF nerf, to be able to do its job.
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That would make the Panther beyond atrocious vs medium tanks. It might also become worse vs heavy tanks, depending on how much the ROF nerf is. It would probably need 220 damage and a significant (30%?) ROF nerf, which would be a major rework of the Panther.
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Panther has just been fixed - let’s not break it again
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Does anybody have any replays/casts that can support argument that Scott overperforming?
I've used them and they felt okayish, but nothing special. Just highly mobile mortar that comes in latest tier with 70 fuel price.
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Does anybody have any replays/casts that can support argument that Scott overperforming?
I've used them and they felt okayish, but nothing special. Just highly mobile mortar that comes in latest tier with 70 fuel price.
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So many people who don't play USF or have never played Axis (and hence never have to face USF) claiming the Scott isn't overperforming.
USF late game is definitely top tier, with only maybe Soviets being even somewhat comparable. USF late game comp is simply insane and the Scott is a major factor. Puma needs 5 shots to kill the Scott (assuming no misses...haha) and the Scott moves extremely fast so it can easily reverse while other units back it up, and even if you manage to trade 1 for 1 the Puma costs more than the Scott anyway.
The issue with USF is that early-mid game is so terrible vs OKW into Luchs, or vs snipers and Ost LVs, that generally getting to the late game is very very difficult. If USF early-mid issues ever get fixed through Riflemen buffs or through Axis factions no longer have dominating early-mid LV rushes, we'll start to see USF late-game really shine.
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Does anybody have any replays/casts that can support argument that Scott overperforming?
I've used them and they felt okayish, but nothing special. Just highly mobile mortar that comes in latest tier with 70 fuel price.
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