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Helping Hans deleted Coh2 cause of allie biased patch

10 Jan 2018, 15:06 PM
#1
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there we go...maybe iam not a big referenz to blame allies meta bs...but..hans should in this position:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/216906128?t=03h37m23s

10 Jan 2018, 15:12 PM
#2
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1) I like Hans
2) Sometimes Hans can let his emotions speak instead of his objective judgement
3) 2 is my own judgement about some of Hans reliability as a source
4) Usually I THINK he has some really good points, and he knows what he is talking about.

I am not stating that he did this here, neither am I saying that he didn't.

I wont comment on this
10 Jan 2018, 15:14 PM
#3
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Kappa
10 Jan 2018, 15:14 PM
#4
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Not so much bias for allies as inability for patches to fix problems. There's a reason everything is about "changes" and not "fixes". It was more important that players got new toys to play with than addressing why all the old toys aren't played with.
10 Jan 2018, 15:33 PM
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Take the example:
Hans makes a lot of super great guides. They are all a valid source of information.

Because Hans is an extremely experienced and super skilled player. And he gives objective statements!
10 Jan 2018, 15:43 PM
#6
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1) I like Hans
2) Sometimes Hans can let his emotions speak instead of his objective judgement
3) 2 is my own judgement about some of Hans reliability as a source
4) Usually I THINK he has some really good points, and he knows what he is talking about.

I am neither stating that he did this here, neither am I saying that he didn't.

I wont comment on this

+1 true
10 Jan 2018, 15:43 PM
#7
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Take the example:
Hans makes a lot of super great guides. They are all a valid source of information.

Because Hans is an extremely experienced and super skilled player. And he gives objective statements!


For 1vs1 for sure!

Teamgames he is different. Also Tenshi did not played well.

Axis made some mistakes and also went wrong docs. But yes good microed sniper is always a pain in the a**.

And yes, Hans is very emotinal. But he will come back to coh2.

But it was clear that some axisfanboys will use this case ;)

I can remember for almost 1 year, Hans started to play 2vs2 and tried okw a while and said: 2 OKW is crap in 2vs2 (it was the full meta and had highest winrate :P) Teamgames are just different to 1vs1.

So other docs, other tactic, other buildorder, better teamplay together to flank the snipers could had helped alot.

But i know all the axis fanboys will ignore this here and post more^^

P.S I agree 222 need to be better vs snipers. Versus inf and vehicles its fine tho
10 Jan 2018, 15:57 PM
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rak as always is the same as m42
10 Jan 2018, 16:14 PM
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Not suitable for COH2 Bugs. Moved to Scrap Yard.
10 Jan 2018, 16:17 PM
#10
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Not suitable for COH2 Bugs. Moved to Scrap Yard.
this should be balance as HH is right about the sniper guards combo and the rak
10 Jan 2018, 16:20 PM
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this should be balance as HH is right about the sniper guards combo and the rak


:hansWUT:




10 Jan 2018, 16:23 PM
#12
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there we go...maybe iam not a big referenz to blame allies meta bs...but..hans should in this position:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/216906128?t=03h37m23s



it's not strange you wrote that.
10 Jan 2018, 16:34 PM
#13
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Not suitable for COH2 Bugs. Moved to Scrap Yard.


Thank you ^^
10 Jan 2018, 16:36 PM
#14
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1) I like Hans
2) Sometimes Hans can let his emotions speak instead of his objective judgement
3) 2 is my own judgement about some of Hans reliability as a source
4) Usually I THINK he has some really good points, and he knows what he is talking about.

I am not stating that he did this here, neither am I saying that he didn't.

I wont comment on this


(To mods - I requested my acc be deleted aa year ago. Have re-registered)

Speaking of emotions, aren't you the guy who threw a fit and broke his comp after SturmTigerOst blew up your massive abuse rifle blob?

I don't think you're qualified to judge Hans' objectivity. Especially since you're a proponent of game-ruining abuse like 100 sandbag strategy, etc.

I think it's people like you who led to players getting frustrated and leaving the game.

Hans plays all factions and plays Brits extremely well. When a 5-faction player says the game is unbalanced - it's pretty certainly unbalanced.

Lastly, Lenny, why say you won't comment when you clearly did by suggesting Hans is not being objective? "Hans is wronk but no commentz". . .
10 Jan 2018, 16:42 PM
#15
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Mr. Smith, how would you respond to this development? Your work has resulted in one of the game's leading players uninstalling.


The big problems to fix were all allied factions have superior mainline infantry which could all get some form of handheld AT to counter their own counters.

Massive double lmg rifle and tommy blobs with zooks and piats on cheap engineer units.

And the lovely penal spam into ptrs or guards to again counter their own counter. Awesome early game firepower and sticky satchels, which are the best snare in the game and always cause engine damage (even though originally, snares had engine damage removed)

"Panther in gud spot, slight nurf. Buff cons".
10 Jan 2018, 16:50 PM
#16
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"Speaking of emotions, aren't you the guy who threw a fit and broke his comp after SturmTigerOst blew up your massive abuse rifle blob?"

Threw a fit and broke my computer. Wtf xD
It was in the last phase of a 24 hour stream. I punched my desk. And played some more hours after that.

I was just pissed because I was outplayed hard - And I knew what was comming
I saw the comidic value of this and put it as a highlight MYSELF to laugh at it
I never said anything about CAS being super duper broken at the time

I directly said in a moment of rage "THATS WHY CAS IS SO FUCKING SHIT"

I really never complained about the balance around CAS afterwards. It was just in a moment of rage. Also my point in all of this. Nice example. Wrong information combined with bad assumptions.

Also, cool that you have an opinion

game-ruining abuse like 100 sandbag strategy, etc.
(I would now argue that this is not an effective strategy against some units)
10 Jan 2018, 17:01 PM
#17
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Teamgames are just different to 1vs1.


yeah, 1v1 is mostly about tryhard kids who think they are good. but then they arent anymore in bigger modes
10 Jan 2018, 17:08 PM
#18
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Threw a fit and broke my computer. Wtf xD
It was in the last phase of a 24 hour stream. I punched my desk. And played some more hours after that.

I was just pissed because I was outplayed hard - And I knew what was comming
I saw the comidic value of this and put it as a highlight MYSELF to laugh at it
I never said anything about CAS being super duper broken at the time

I directly said in a moment of rage "THATS WHY CAS IS SO FUCKING SHIT"

I really never complained about the balance around CAS afterwards. It was just in a moment of rage. Also my point in all of this. Nice example. Wrong information combined with bad assumptions.

Also, cool that you have an opinion

game-ruining abuse like 100 sandbag strategy, etc.
(I would now argue that this is not an effective strategy against some units)






You protest hard. Good for you. Didn't address my point though. You talked about CAS a lot instead, though I didn't bring that up.

My point for those hard-of-reading
As an emotional-type you are not in a position to suggest Hans was acting in emotion and not speaking any truth about imbalance.

You said I was biased though I haven't presented my own opinions on balance. Only that Hans has quit because of it and that should be taken into account.

Feel free to address those points and not go off on a tangent about CAS.

10 Jan 2018, 17:13 PM
#19
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You protest hard. Good for you. Didn't address my point though. You talked about CAS a lot instead, though I didn't bring that up.

My point for those hard-of-reading
As an emotional-type you are not in a position to suggest Hans was acting in emotion and not speaking any truth about imbalance.

You said I was biased though I haven't presented my own opinions on balance. Only that Hans has quit because of it and that should be taken into account.

Feel free to address those points and not go off on a tangent about CAS.



Im not the emotional type. You would know that if you actually watched 30 minutes of my content. Anything I make.
10 Jan 2018, 17:16 PM
#20
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Not suitable for COH2 Bugs. Moved to Scrap Yard.


I think u did this because noone new will see this post. It look like any critic id not Welcome...and the prove that the last patch was allie biased and shit.
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