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Replay request for Teller mine bug

16 Nov 2016, 14:21 PM
#1
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From what I know, Teller mines have issues causing engine damage vs British tanks. It is also a fact that British tanks have larger hitboxes than other tanks, on average. However, since correlation doesn't always imply causation, let's get the facts straight

1. Before, I launch off to a wild goose chase, I need to have the following questions answered:
- Yes, Teller mines do occasionally bug vs Cromwells and Churchills
- Do Schu mines ever bug against the same tanks?
- Do Teller mines bug more than other mines against other tanks? I think I have once seen an SU-76 receive no damage from them.
- Has anyone ever seen any allied mine ever bug vs an Axis tank?

2. In order to be able to fix a bug, I need to test a fix. And, in order to test a fix, I need to know how to trigger the bug in the first place (no, I am not going to drive 500 Cromwells over a Teller mine hoping one will die).
- Is the angle of approach important?
- Does elevation matter?
- etc, etc

> Links to youtube/twitch are welcome.
> Precise reproduction steps more than welcome.

Be nice, and be fast, and Santa might just have a bugfix waiting for you :-)
16 Nov 2016, 14:34 PM
#2
avatar of Dangerous-Cloth

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As far as I know, from my own experience, the tanks that can cause the teller mine bug are vehicles that are very fast. M10s, cromwells and comets seem the biggest offenders in my memory.

But I have seen it happen with T34-85s and even IS2s too. There was this one cast of Imperial Dane where a Sherman hit a teller mine but nothing happened. The sherman hit it frontally, not with its rear facing it.


This is all I know of it. I am sorry if this isn't helpful.

16 Nov 2016, 14:34 PM
#3
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sorry double post
16 Nov 2016, 14:37 PM
#4
avatar of Iron Emperor

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From what I know, Teller mines have issues causing engine damage vs British tanks. It is also a fact that British tanks have larger hitboxes than other tanks, on average. However, since correlation doesn't always imply causation, let's get the facts straight

1. Before, I launch off to a wild goose chase, I need to have the following questions answered:
- Yes, Teller mines do occasionally bug vs Cromwells and Churchills
I have seen multiple tellers bug on Churchills, also on Cromwells like they are Jezus.
- Do Schu mines ever bug against the same tanks?
Never witnessed in like 900 hours playing OKW that a Schu mines bug at all.
- Do Teller mines bug more than other mines against other tanks? I think I have once seen an SU-76 receive no damage from them.
100%, for some reason I feel like they are the only bugging mine
- Has anyone ever seen any allied mine ever bug vs an Axis tank?
Nope, never seen it happen. Seems that only the Teller Mine bugs

2. In order to be able to fix a bug, I need to test a fix. And, in order to test a fix, I need to know how to trigger the bug in the first place (no, I am not going to drive 500 Cromwells over a Teller mine hoping one will die).
- Is the angle of approach important?
- Does elevation matter?
- etc, etc

> Links to youtube/twitch are welcome.
> Precise reproduction steps more than welcome.

Be nice, and be fast, and Santa might just have a bugfix waiting for you :-)
16 Nov 2016, 14:48 PM
#5
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I have seen this happen with t34 also (on a road driving straight to it).
Have not seen it happen with any allied mine...
16 Nov 2016, 15:13 PM
#6
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Conversely. Has anyone seen the m20 mine or the riegel mine ever bug at all? (assuming that other people do use them that is)
16 Nov 2016, 15:25 PM
#7
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16 Nov 2016, 16:36 PM
#8
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I have seen it happen with Shermans too!
16 Nov 2016, 17:16 PM
#9
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M20 and Riegel never bugged
16 Nov 2016, 17:22 PM
#10
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I was able to continuously 5-6 reproduce it by placing the mine in the same crate where it fist happened. Seems to be related with the terrain...pm if you want the replay but it easily does in cheat more steeps island near on the road near fuel.
16 Nov 2016, 20:22 PM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 17:22 PMVipper
I was able to continuously 5-6 reproduce it by placing the mine in the same crate where it fist happened. Seems to be related with the terrain...pm if you want the replay but it easily does in cheat more steeps island near on the road near fuel.


Thx, I'll try!

Machine also mentioned something about placing mines in pre-existing craters. I'll have a go at it, and I'll let you know if I get stuck.
16 Nov 2016, 21:57 PM
#12
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Strange
16 Nov 2016, 23:34 PM
#13
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As was written above there are some specific places on the maps that bugged for tellers. It is known issue.
17 Nov 2016, 04:15 AM
#14
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i had t70 "dodge" teller. that was ~a year and half ago though.
17 Nov 2016, 20:23 PM
#15
avatar of Latch

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Just had a game against OST as Brits, the OST players P4 went near my mine, well out of range yet, it blew up...with no damage at all to the P4.

Video:
17 Nov 2016, 21:27 PM
#16
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Nov 2016, 20:23 PMLatch
Just had a game against OST as Brits, the OST players P4 went near my mine, well out of range yet, it blew up...with no damage at all to the P4.

it does not seem as if the P4 moved over the mine maybe the mine was hit by an explosives weapon?
21 Nov 2016, 04:21 AM
#17
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Nov 2016, 21:27 PMVipper

it does not seem as if the P4 moved over the mine maybe the mine was hit by an explosives weapon?


Check the mini map, nothing was near it or shooting at/near it, this was the only action in the game
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