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45 fuel for a Luchs autocannon would be OP as fuck
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i dont find 222 being OP, it's balanced imo, kinda cheap, not very good vs anything, losses to garrisoned or green covered units, very vulnerable to any kind of AT weapon, keep in mind that it still does get killed by 2 pak shots and medium/heavy tanks
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i dont find 222 being OP, it's balanced imo, kinda cheap, not very good vs anything, losses to garrisoned or green covered units, very vulnerable to any kind of AT weapon, keep in mind that it still does get killed by 2 pak shots and medium/heavy tanks
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Luchs cost 65 fuel (if i remember correctly). It have good armor (not penetrated by rifles,mg and etc.), good cannon and have320 hp400 hp (correct me if i made mistake). Also it can cloak at 1 vet.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I'm with Barton on this. That video was a joke, because the player just had to back up to keep his front armor shown and never even attempted to.
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The video is an exaggeration, not trying to make a point with it. But how can someone possibly make the argument that the current 222 should be cheaper then a wc51.
It's stats aren't OP but it's price is ridiculous.
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Doesn't wc51 allow transport of units? So you can make USF clown car out of it, if so it's balanced.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Soviet M3 is still stronger and cheaper you know.
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Yes, but was answering his saying of why wc51 cost more than 222.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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That is rather terrible logic.
Unarmed 250 costs 40 fuel.
Soviet M5 costs 30.
Some units just have retarded prices behind them that make absolutely no sense.
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WC51 is 240mp 20fuel 5pop, that gets USF their own clown car. Is armed with 50cal machine gun (What unarmed?) Which is really good if you want to play clown car style.
And I am 99.9% certain the soviet clown car does not cost 30 fuel. Think 20fuel and maybe 200mp.
ps. I would be really happy if there was ostheer commander that gave me sdkfz 250 only on cp0. Now there is 2 commanders that give it, but you have to save alot of manpower + fuel to get it and being locked behind cp3. 500mp 40fuel to get Wehrmacht clown car, you don't always want to pay for unit + halftrack.
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It was just an HP boost. Now everyone thinks they're cheap terminators that win games... Good logic. I suppose this community is soooo used to saying "If it's not underpowered, It's overpowered."
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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"just hp boost" was also applied to M10, StuG, sherman EZ8, KV-2, ost weapon teams(4th man), Stuart, 222 previously(apparently only allies are supposed to be losing less then 20fu units to mines and axis vehicles are all supposed to be able to crawl away if they can).
Do I need to remind anyone old 2% hp bulletins and their effect on balance?
The "just hp boost" is one of the most powerful buffs a unit can get.
"Just hp boost" can take unit from being completely and utterly useless to meta and always go-to unit.
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