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lol, so who complained about combat engineers?

30 Oct 2014, 22:51 PM
#21
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No I think that would be Irregulars..


Why do you say that? They hit harder than conscripts (and I might add work great with conscripts).
30 Oct 2014, 22:53 PM
#22
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Relic saw that RunToTheSun started with 6 Engis and won a game and decided that Engis are not supposed to be main combat units. Just like Pios few patches ago.
30 Oct 2014, 23:00 PM
#23
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Why do you say that? They hit harder than conscripts (and I might add work great with conscripts).

Really? Last time I used them they lost to unupgraded Panzerfusilliers, so I tried to pair them up but then Sturmpioneers wiped 'em out. I tried to put them on recrewing duty but their high reinforcement cost made them even bad for that. Before the March Deployment, I loved my Irregulars, but after it they were nerfed harder than anything else.


"This unit can actually do something!"

NERF IT INTO THE GROUND!!!!!

They nerfed the DPS by 2-3, I don't see why it's such a huge deal that they did. Certainly not INTO THE GROUND™ I don't even understand why they did, it hardly seems worthwhile.
30 Oct 2014, 23:06 PM
#24
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Oh. I dont let them be under any sort of fire! I love my irra, just remidy them with a meat shield.
30 Oct 2014, 23:07 PM
#25
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Really not sure why the Relic balance team does what it does sometimes. This seems like such a tiny issue in comparison to Walking Stuka and King Tiger running wild, or the SU-76 being a laughingstock unit since game launch.

Peter works in mysterious ways. :snfPeter:
31 Oct 2014, 00:01 AM
#26
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Relic saw that RunToTheSun started with 6 Engis and won a game and decided that Engis are not supposed to be main combat units. Just like Pios few patches ago.


4CE - M3 - Snipers...
Burn him, he has the fault!!
31 Oct 2014, 00:13 AM
#27
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I don't know, the change is substantial, especially at 20+ range, but I'm not sure if ~1 DPS difference would make or break a CE heavy strat.
31 Oct 2014, 00:16 AM
#28
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2014, 20:07 PMRomeo


They certainly scale better with BARs now. Initially though, I doubt it even with their lower cost.
Considering the number of OKW players, you forgot engineers with LMG34.:D
31 Oct 2014, 00:37 AM
#29
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Relic just hate the SOviet faction
31 Oct 2014, 01:03 AM
#30
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Ostheer pioneers got nerfed too.... I don't know why they pios and enginners so much. They probaly want to make infantry fights a gren/conscript/rifle-only thing.
31 Oct 2014, 01:14 AM
#31
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typical allied whiners. get a huge patch changing lots of things and still complain about the smallest most insignificant change. I'm sure those OP combat engineers were winning you lots of games before.
31 Oct 2014, 01:30 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2014, 01:14 AMHitman5
typical allied whiners. get a huge patch changing lots of things and still complain about the smallest most insignificant change. I'm sure those OP combat engineers were winning you lots of games before.


31 Oct 2014, 01:33 AM
#33
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Engineer's reinforcement cost was always their full cost divided by 8. So it was 22 when their cost was 180 before this patch.
31 Oct 2014, 01:58 AM
#34
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2014, 01:14 AMHitman5
typical allied whiners. get a huge patch changing lots of things and still complain about the smallest most insignificant change. I'm sure those OP combat engineers were winning you lots of games before.


Can't really see many complaints here man. All I see is some tongue in cheek fun.

You axis fanbois need to lighten up, and start finding your inner sense of humour.
31 Oct 2014, 02:50 AM
#35
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No I think that would be Irregulars.


Don't talk pudding about the irregulars, that grenade they have is amazing, and the lmg42 is an lmg42.
31 Oct 2014, 03:16 AM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2014, 02:50 AMTobis
Don't talk pudding about the irregulars, that grenade they have is amazing, and the lmg42 is an lmg42.


Actually the LMG 42 they get is different from the Grenadier's LMG 42, it has half the DPS at range.
31 Oct 2014, 12:36 PM
#37
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Of course it's different ... those silly Russians carve bullets out of potatoes.
31 Oct 2014, 13:58 PM
#38
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Ostheer pioneers got nerfed too.... I don't know why they pios and enginners so much. They probaly want to make infantry fights a gren/conscript/rifle-only thing.


Ost pios were never supposed to have 100% moving accuracy, so it was a bugfix.

CEs on the other hand got a plain nerf.

Apparently conscripts are in such a deep shit that even CEs outperformed them.
31 Oct 2014, 14:01 PM
#39
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2014, 13:58 PMKatitof


Ost pios were never supposed to have 100% moving accuracy, so it was a bugfix.

CEs on the other hand got a plain nerf.

Apparently conscripts are in such a deep shit that even CEs outperformed them.



Whyyy does Relic hate conscripts so...
31 Oct 2014, 14:07 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2014, 13:58 PMKatitof


Ost pios were never supposed to have 100% moving accuracy, so it was a bugfix.

CEs on the other hand got a plain nerf.

Apparently conscripts are in such a deep shit that even CEs outperformed them.

Then the change to combat engineers can be seen as bug fix too. It changed because last patch they altered conscripts in a way that the mosin nagant was better but that conscripts had more increased received accuracy. Since combat engineers use the same weapon as conscripts they got buffed as well but without the increased received accuracy penalty.
Now they changed that engineers have the prepre patch mosin back I think
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