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B-4 203mm - Should Relic nerf this howi?
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16 Jul 2014, 14:33 PM
#1
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Giving Counterattack tactics to everyone <444>3

B-4 one shoots JagdPanzer and kills it <444>3

Balance everywhere <444>3

How beautiful it is <444>3

"One click" direct shot on target(Tank) <444>3
16 Jul 2014, 14:44 PM
#2
avatar of The amazing Chandler

Posts: 1355

I could say the same about many other units but i wont. I voted no!
16 Jul 2014, 14:45 PM
#3
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17892 | Subs: 8

I wanted to paste here a picture adequate to overreaction and lack of understanding of the unit, its costs and accuracy, but I have failed to find one.

If B4 actually hit your tank, maybe you shouldn't keep in in place for a minute it takes it to turn and fire for 180 muni.


Or I will say it this way:

Play with the doctrine and see for yourself how awesome B-4 really is.
You'll be back here with "buff B-4" thread after shooting few times with it.
16 Jul 2014, 15:02 PM
#4
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

That means opponent was luckiest person on earth...
16 Jul 2014, 15:03 PM
#5
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Killing 400mp&135fuel for 180 muni is expensive? ;)
16 Jul 2014, 15:08 PM
#6
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jul 2014, 15:02 PMDavidKh
That means opponent was luckiest person on earth...

u played 1 time against a b4 and then instantly whine on forum how op it is?

lol
16 Jul 2014, 15:08 PM
#7
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Stuka zu Fuss? Aggressive play? Off map abilities?
16 Jul 2014, 15:09 PM
#8
avatar of ilGetUSomDay

Posts: 612

Oh wow, "It killed my stuff nerf nerf nerf!" If you have only seen it once, go to the strategy section first and ask how it works before you make an embarrassing ignorant post.
16 Jul 2014, 15:10 PM
#9
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

It takes two precision shots even with mark target. You also need somebody to spot for it or use the recon plane. The B4 is balanced.

Durp: Misread it. King Tiger is what I was referring too.
16 Jul 2014, 15:36 PM
#10
avatar of MilkaCow

Posts: 577

I love that Howitzer. It's a nice mixture of luck and skill. You need to keep the point of impact visible, else you have close to no chance to hit at all and then you need to pray.

That Howitzer is the most Soviet thing I ever saw. Big gun, big boom. I really love it. I'm usually not a huge fan of such RNG units that can decide whole battles, but for some reason I just can't get enough of those 203mm of BOOM.

Regarding the actual discussion:
All of hits shots oneshot a tank, the direct fire is actually the least reliable in my opinion (expensive, low arc and takes ages to fire, so the tank might move slightly).
B4 is somewhat a Sturmtiger with better range, but far less accuracy / armor and of course no mobility.
16 Jul 2014, 15:53 PM
#11
avatar of Caeltos

Posts: 72

The B4 is such a new unit.
16 Jul 2014, 18:08 PM
#12
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

^
It´s like since it can only shoot 1 shell, it hasn´t been affected with the nerfbat which occured with other artillery pieces.
16 Jul 2014, 18:50 PM
#13
avatar of Steiner500

Posts: 183

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jul 2014, 14:33 PMDavidKh
Giving Counterattack tactics to everyone <444>3

B-4 one shoots JagdPanzer and kills it <444>3

Balance everywhere <444>3

How beautiful it is <444>3

"One click" direct shot on target(Tank) <444>3

Go away fanboy and learn to play
16 Jul 2014, 19:10 PM
#14
avatar of Bulgakov

Posts: 987

I think Soviets need a big gun like this (eg to help with overly-aggressive OKW trucks) but "Precision strike" makes it into a kind of *debug* button. It just deletes squads almost without fail every minute or so.

I think a small nerf/change is needed. Maybe just remove prescision strike and give it a three-shell ability with scatter instead.

Or add red smoke to prescision strike.
16 Jul 2014, 19:15 PM
#15
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110


Go away fanboy and learn to play

Ok I will learn =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
16 Jul 2014, 21:35 PM
#16
avatar of Ohme
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The other day a Jadgtiger rolled towards the front line, and then decided to stop. We quicky recon'd it, used mark target, and had 2 B4s precision strike it. It blew up in spectacular fashion.

But think about it, 1200mp in arty pieces, 180 munitions for 2 precision strikes, recon plane, and mark target. He also kept it stationary for the whole ordeal.

The best part about this doctrine is using the "For Mother Russia" to buff the B4s. Want to really cheese? put it near an FHQ, use "For Muther Russia" and watch the fireworks.

But for real, stuka dive bomb, walking stuka, counter arty, fragmentation bomb, the list goes on. Its easy to take out.
16 Jul 2014, 22:59 PM
#17
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

Just being Captain Obvious; I think the OP is just upset about the one-shotting units in-game.

OP; deal with it, it costs 600 mp and a tons of muni to kill that JGpanzer. You had the chance to avoid it and after so much resource investment, it'd better 1-shot it.
17 Jul 2014, 12:58 PM
#18
avatar of van Voort
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I want to like this thing, but I usually regret building it


It is very expensive and vulnerable as a direct fire weapon, but as a proper artillery piece it's basically "An enormous explosion will happen somewhere in the area you indicated"

This means either something just got fucked, or nothing happened.

And if nothing happens, the one shot and long cooldown means it will take a long time to vet if ever



I much prefer the M-20 because that is more reliable, has better range


Not that I wouldn't mind a Soviet "Artillery Division" doctrine that had both
18 Jul 2014, 14:45 PM
#19
avatar of DanielGrushin

Posts: 18

inb4 sturmtiger op thread from this guy
18 Jul 2014, 14:58 PM
#20
avatar of vasa1719

Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4

Permanently Banned
DavidKh when You write somthing about soviet nerf its look very fun MVGame.
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